Indyref2

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I think Scotland will......

  • Vote to stay in the UK

    Votes: 43 47.3%
  • Vote to leave the UK

    Votes: 39 42.9%
  • Don't know

    Votes: 9 9.9%

  • Total voters
    91

Doon frae Troon

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Don't spoil it for Doon. He's wetting himself and drooling over the pretty pictures

Not really, just saying that 17,000 folk is a lot to attend a political rally.
You don't......we disagree.
No need for insults.

In your thought process........I wonder what you would say if 40,000 folk marched down The Mall in support of UKIP.
 

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Not really, just saying that 17,000 folk is a lot to attend a political rally.
You don't......we disagree.
No need for insults.

In your thought process........I wonder what you would say if 40,000 folk marched down The Mall in support of UKIP.

That's thing about labelling. You think I'm a right wing, Daily Mail reading UKIP supporter. Whereas I think you troll for a reaction, then cry foul when you don't like the response.

In my 40 years of voting I've voted Tory once, mainly Labour until Brown and Miliband became leaders and my voted shifted to LibDems.

Having an adopted black sister I'm pretty sure you know what my views on UKIP are. I've experienced racism on a daily basis for years, and have the physical scars as proof.

And if you think my previous response was insulting you are way too precious.
 

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Not really, just saying that 17,000 folk is a lot to attend a political rally.
You don't......we disagree.
No need for insults.

In your thought process........I wonder what you would say if 40,000 folk marched down The Mall in support of UKIP.
I would say "40,000 folk marched down the Mall in support of UKIP"
 

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That's thing about labelling. You think I'm a right wing, Daily Mail reading UKIP supporter. Whereas I think you troll for a reaction, then cry foul when you don't like the response.

In my 40 years of voting I've voted Tory once, mainly Labour until Brown and Miliband became leaders and my voted shifted to LibDems.

Having an adopted black sister I'm pretty sure you know what my views on UKIP are. I've experienced racism on a daily basis for years, and have the physical scars as proof.

And if you think my previous response was insulting you are way too precious.

I did not label you, I asked for your opinion on a comparison based on your thought process
Which I did not get.
 

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17,000 Indyref supporters marching under one banner through Glasgow yesterday.

From a conurbation of 2.8 million. No doubt some of the 17,000 travelled to Glasgow from afar.

So less than 1% of the voting public turned out, and that turns you on...!? Oh my sides!


To try and get some honest replies from folk who use insults, put downs and avoidance [like your post] above instead of answers,

Respectfully, maybe you need to consider your delivery. My initial response was to highlight how many in terms of a percentage of voters actually marched. I finished with oh my sides because I wouldn't get giddy over 1%. You came back with Bingo, which suggested to me you got a bite, and finished with keep up.

In respect of a single issue, emotive subject like independence I think it's a poor turn out.

If you feel that posting up some of the more rabid Wings pieces means you're immune from a harsh response you're sadly mistaken. On the wider issue of independence itself, I can't understand why any country would be happy having another country make the global decisions for it. I also feel it's a little cynical to vote against independence purely for financial reasons.

If you had a more centre-ist party leading the independence campaign, and had better budgetary control, I'd be very tempted to grab it with both hands.
 

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A bit selective there........how about post #1382.
The one they have all avoided apart from one childish reply.

I did in fact get the number wrong in my rely to Hobbit........the correct one should have been [pro rata] 160,000 UKIP supporters marching down the Mall.
 

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A bit selective there........how about post #1382.
The one they have all avoided apart from one childish reply.

I did in fact get the number wrong in my rely to Hobbit........the correct one should have been [pro rata] 160,000 UKIP supporters marching down the Mall.

I replied to #1382 in #1383, or did you miss that...nothing selective at all.

God help us if we do see 160,000 UKIP supporters marching down Whitehall.

Perhaps you, understandably, don't see a correlation but do you not think many English might view a nationalist party like the SNP similarly to UKIP? I used to until I moved up to Aberdeen. Now I think of them more like old Labour in their socialist views, and with a similar lack of financial control.
 

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I replied to #1382 in #1383, or did you miss that...nothing selective at all.

God help us if we do see 160,000 UKIP supporters marching down Whitehall.

Perhaps you, understandably, don't see a correlation but do you not think many English might view a nationalist party like the SNP similarly to UKIP? I used to until I moved up to Aberdeen. Now I think of them more like old Labour in their socialist views, and with a similar lack of financial control.

Well - if there were more than 16 (more likely 6) in the audience of 400 at the SW Surrey hustings I attended on Friday evening they were keeping their support very hidden.
 

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Not sure why anyone would make such a big thing about a minority of the population who lost a democratic vote and are still in the minority now is causing such joy with our blogger. No different than BNP marches, not anything more than police overtime.
 
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I think many of them have returned to the Tory right wing now that they've achieved their aim.

They'll kick off again if their version of Brexit is not delivered which it likely wont be as any concessions to EU at all from May (GE result pending) will be seen as a failure by UKIP, Farage making noises about leading party again in that circumstance. Round in circles we go.:whistle:
 

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I replied to #1382 in #1383, or did you miss that...nothing selective at all.

God help us if we do see 160,000 UKIP supporters marching down Whitehall.

Perhaps you, understandably, don't see a correlation but do you not think many English might view a nationalist party like the SNP similarly to UKIP? I used to until I moved up to Aberdeen. Now I think of them more like old Labour in their socialist views, and with a similar lack of financial control.

Sorry that selective response was for Imurg.
 

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So, how far back has this pushed Indy Ref 2? NS has accepted a second ref has had a significant impact on the results in Scotland and they went badly for the SNP. Will it disappear now until after Brexit has happened, at the earliest?
 

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Disappears for good hopefully!

In Scotland SNP got more seats than the combined Unionist Labour/Tory/L.D. parties.
The Unionist Parties played the Westminster election as a Scottish Referendum and they lost. This was despite the Unionist parties fielding paper candidates in the seats where they were weak, some were just out of school and some barely able to speak.

Re Indyref 2 ..........all depends .....If Corbyn wins next months election I think Indyref2 will go on the back burner.
If May wins, it will be game on.
 
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