ger147
Tour Winner
Aye, it'll never catch on...
Aye, it'll never catch on...
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
Speaking of facts the Maley Dale is a hoot.
They are now reduced to desperately bad photoshop images of the Scottish first minister and wailing that 81% of Scots do not think that she is doing an excellent job.:lol:
They are now reduced to desperately bad photoshop images of the Scottish first minister and wailing that 81% of Scots do not think that she is doing an excellent job.:lol:
Val
Ryder Cup Winner
That number is definitely wrong.......................................it should be higher
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
The simple point I made about the RBS was that it wasn't a Made-in-Scotland economic issue out of Made-in-Scotland economic failings or Holyrood government policy. It was a UK economic issue coming out of a global issue - made by a global bank whose registered address is in Edinburgh. Did the profits of RBS (when they made them) go direct into the vaults of Holyrood? I don't think so.
Val
Ryder Cup Winner
I think you miss the point made altogether quite frankly. The RBS scenario was raised to counter the fact that it was implied Scotland was being crippled by Westminsters created debt, I merely pointed out some of this debt was created by a Scottish company being bailed out to the tune of hundreds of millions.
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
OK - RBS is a Scottish company but their debt was hardly debt created in Scotland...
Val
Ryder Cup Winner
No one said it was
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
But the RBS example was used to counter the Westminster-created debt point - when they are, as you say, not equivalent.
Val
Ryder Cup Winner
RBS was raised to explain that a Scottish company helped add to the Westminster debt when the original inference was the Westminster debt was a noose around Scotlands neck. Scotland (the government) and Scottish businesses helped create the debt, they weren't and aren't angels.
What is hard to understand?
Whether it was created in Scotland or not it is part of the UK's debt. Equally, if it hadn't been bailed out, the potential meltdown could have been far worse.
You, like Doon, seem to often imply nothing is Scotland's fault. Using your logic, nothing is York's or Preston's fault either. But as you know that isn't the case.
it is a UK, including Scotland, responsibility.
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
Naw....... draw the line at York.........they are Southern softies.
The 'good guys' line is from Preston to just north of Hartlepool. [something seriously wrong about folk who hang monkeys as French spies]
SocketRocket
Ryder Cup Winner
You had better keep clear of Hartlepool then
SocketRocket
Ryder Cup Winner
Their tax did but they did say that in the last Scottish Indy Referendum if there were a YES vote they would move their HQ to London so Holyrood would lose their tax.
They were wearing berets, what else could they have been? 😁
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Doon frae Troon
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In the real world.......I just got my Tory manifesto for the council elections and there was not ONE Tory political proposal/idea listed.
The whole leaflet was about saying no to independence, even May said to use the local elections to say no to Independence.
Totally negative, absolutely no fresh ideas, embarrassed by Westminster's bedroom tax and rape clause, and flip flopping aboot like a very flip floppity dolphin, that's the Scottish Tories
The whole leaflet was about saying no to independence, even May said to use the local elections to say no to Independence.
Totally negative, absolutely no fresh ideas, embarrassed by Westminster's bedroom tax and rape clause, and flip flopping aboot like a very flip floppity dolphin, that's the Scottish Tories
SocketRocket
Ryder Cup Winner
Gone fishing
And....
Next time a political commentator asks Sturgeon a question ask yourself did her answer, answer the question. I watch quite a bit of the debates from Holyrood, and I must say Sturgeon is getting hammered by Ruth Davidson and Keiza Dugdale too easily on unfulfilled promises and lies about who is to blame for what. Sturgeon blaming the Tories for the Scottish NHS and Education when Holyrood controls the purse strings.
And then there's the (hilarious) 17th & 18th April. Sturgeon; "May doesn't have a mandate to be PM. She should call a General Election." The following day after an election is called, "what a ridiculous time to call an election."
I get you don't the Tories but if your alternative is to flag was for the SNP with their leadership and spending policies your doing Scotland a grave disservice.
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
You have really lost it now:rofl:........Sturgeon getting 'hammered' by Dugdale, the soon to be leader of Scotland's fourth most popular party.
That is seriously funny.
That is seriously funny.
If you're that blind you can't see the evidence from the Holyrood broadcasts I pity you. After all, it is actually highlighting Sturgeon's and the SNP's performance.
