Immigration good or bad

[Deleted member 15344]

Since 2000 net migration has reached 2.6 Million. Thats' like 2.5 times the population of Birmingham. As well as this the birth rate is climbing at a fairly rapid rate 813,000 new births in 2012.

As these numbers will rise over the years how will this kind of population be supported. To create housing, health services, schools and infrastructure for this number of people we will either have to have a continual large growth in the economy or accept a reduced standard of living.

Schools and housing is on the increase and has been for a while

The population is growing with or without immigration

Our country has always been proud of being able to welcome people into the country and I hope we continue to do so

Our country is wonderfully multi cultural

 

[Hobbit]

Our country is wonderfully multi cultural

Please could you expand on this. Personally, I feel we are a country of a number of cultures, all quite separate, and a far from multicultural.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

This article sums it up well

http://resources.woodlands-junior.kent.sch.uk/customs/questions/multiculture.html

 

[Captainron]

I immigrated in 2000 when i was brought over to play cricket. Plan was always to stay on. Both my folks were born over here and it was easy enough for me to get a british passport. My folks considered themselves South African and were never ever going to return to these shores to live. I really dont think that i should have been allowed to have British Citizenship because they have not lived here for over 50 years! I am thankful for the laxity and have made my life here but i will alwats consider myself South African. On the plus side, i feel thatbi have contributed to Britain and i speak the language which should also be a requirement.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Our country is wonderfully multi cultural

I don't consider my local council not putting up Christmas lights because it offends Muslims to be 'wonderfully multi cultural'

 

[Blue in Munich]

Please could you expand on this. Personally, I feel we are a country of a number of cultures, all quite separate, and a far from multicultural.

That echoes my experience; whilst there are many races in and around London, they tend to form self-supporting enclaves rather than integrating. There are exceptions to that, obviously, but I have found them to be the exception rather than the norm.

 

[stevie_r]

I don't consider my local council not putting up Christmas lights because it offends Muslims to be 'wonderfully multi cultural'

Confuses me why it would offend them really, given that we are 'celebrating the birth' of a man who is a minor prophet in their religion.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I don't consider my local council not putting up Christmas lights because it offends Muslims to be 'wonderfully multi cultural'

Which council is that ? In Christchurch ?

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Which council is that ? In Christchurch ?

It's many councils right up and down the country!

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Not yours then and certainly not mine and can't remember many others in the news banning Xmas lights

I do remember this though

http://www.hoax-slayer.com/christmas-banned-offends-muslims-false-story.shtml

Oh and here is the Muslim community confirming that Xmas doesn't offend them

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/12/17/ban-christmas-muslims_n_4460151.html

So is it really councils up and down the country

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Yes...there ARE councils that ban Xmas lights.

We clearly have different views on this issue so I'm not going to debate it any further as we are just going round in circles.

You are clearly happy to live in a 'wonderfully multicultural society' where English will be a second language in the future but that isn't really my ideal for living in the UK.

Enjoy! :thup:

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Yes...there ARE councils that ban Xmas lights.

We clearly have different views on this issue so I'm not going to debate it any further as we are just going round in circles.

You are clearly happy to live in a 'wonderfully multicultural society' where English will be a second language in the future but that isn't really my ideal for living in the UK.

Enjoy! :thup:

Which councils then ? You can't make statements like that and not back them up.

Did you read either article where the "council ban" was proven to be a nonsense

The country has over 50 million English people speaking English - 2.9 million not born in the country

So how is English going to become our 2nd language

Facts don't back up what your suggesting

Do people also include the Irish who are the biggest immigrant into Britain ?

 

[Hobbit]

So how is English going to become our 2nd language

Facts don't back up what your suggesting

Try visiting Birmingham City hospital. You'll find English on the signs in the hospital.... down in 3rd or 4th place. Try asking some of the staff for directions...

Your version of reality does seem a little at odds with many on here...

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Went there about 4 years ago with an eye problem - had an English speaking doc and nurse

And does one hospital represent the majority of the country ?

50 mil English speaking people ( first language ) in the country.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Went there about 4 years ago with an eye problem - had an English speaking doc and nurse

And does one hospital represent the majority of the country ?

50 mil English speaking people ( first language ) in the country.

Don't kid yourself Phil, if you want a precedent then just look at Miami. The primary language is Spanish, English is now the 2nd language in that city. Or how about Leicester where whites are now in the minority (and no, that is not a racist comment, it's merely a fact).

Britain is rapidly changing.....that is also a fact.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Don't kid yourself Phil, if you want a precedent then just look at Miami. The primary language is Spanish, English is now the 2nd language in that city. Or how about Leicester where whites are now in the minority (and no, that is not a racist comment, it's merely a fact).

Britain is rapidly changing.....that is also a fact.

Just because they are not white doesn't mean English isnt their first language

I'm so surprised we don't speak Danish or French or Spanish as a first language with all those immigrant over the thousands of years

Miami is not the UK

Edit: which language will be the first language in the UK then

The top 5 immigrants are - Polish , Irish , African , Chinese and South Asians ?

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Just because they are not white doesn't mean English isnt their first language

I'm so surprised we don't speak Danish or French or Spanish as a first language with all those immigrant over the thousands of years

Miami is not the UK

Brilliant reply, completely missed the point.

 

[USER1999]

and i speak the language.

With a terrible accent though!

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Brilliant reply, completely missed the point.

You used Miami to back up a point that we will not have English as our first language

I counter that by asking why when people have been flooding into country over thousands of years do we still speak English as a first language - by a massive majority.

You mentioned skin colour in Leicester and asked what that has to do with language because a persons skin colour doesn't automatically suggest a certain type of language

Again there is no facts to back up further points

And not for the first time.

Still waiting for the council list

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Nice picture with lots of facts and figures