I wish I was the confrontational type

[Curls]

ha ha ha yeah ok ..... it was me being stubborn.

I can understand you were and no doubt still are very angry at being shot at, its not something anyone should have to experience.

Having read the responses given in good faith on this thread if the same thing happened again (i.e a faster group behind but the course is rammed) would you do anything differently?

 

[richart]

I would have let them through as they were a two ball, and as far as I am concerned have priority over a fourball. Doesn't matter that there was a competition ahead of you. I would hate the idea of a two ball behind me in these circumstances.

Hitting through you is a different matter, and it doesn't matter if you are holding them up. There are no excuses, someone could get hit and injured. I would like to think I would have let them through before they took this action, but if not, would have strong words.

 

[Deleted member 18121]

I can understand you were and no doubt still are very angry at being shot at, its not something anyone should have to experience.

Having read the responses given in good faith on this thread if the same thing happened again (i.e a faster group behind but the course is rammed) would you do anything differently?

I think the best bit of advice given on this thread is to let people through and make it someone elses problem to deal with them being arrogant and inconsiderate...... although I'd hate to think that someone else reading this thread might think that the way to get around quickly is to fire balls into the group in front in the hope that you'll bully your way through.

 

[Curls]

I think the best bit of advice given on this thread is to let people through and make it someone elses problem to deal with them being arrogant and inconsiderate...... although I'd hate to think that someone else reading this thread might think that the way to get around quickly is to fire balls into the group in front in the hope that you'll bully your way through.

No one is taking home that message. I can but hope that someone else reading this thread will take home the real one, which you seemed to have missed entirely, and the next time a 2 ball steps up behind their 4 they can speak to each other.

 

[Deleted member 18121]

No one is taking home that message. I can but hope that someone else reading this thread will take home the real one, which you seemed to have missed entirely, and the next time a 2 ball steps up behind their 4 they can speak to each other.

And I hope that not all people need it explained to them that the course is backed up something chronic and to stop firing balls into people and relax/enjoy your round.

 

[Curls]

And I hope that not all people need it explained to them that the course is backed up something chronic and to stop firing balls into people and relax/enjoy your round.

This is the problem, if it was just that the course was backed up then you should have let them through. The competition gives you a better argument for not to, but they might not have known about it. You should have spoken to them. Shooting at you was their mistake, ignoring them was yours. The fact that those mistakes are very different ends of the scale is not relevant, acknowledging your own is as it may prevent future unpleasantness on the course. I can't guarantee it but I very much doubt you'd be writing this thread for the sake of a

"Hi chaps, comp in front, going to be a slow day"

But you don't seem to be getting it. I wonder if you'll be back with another tale of woe soon? I hope not, I can't understand why folk can't just be welcoming particularly to visitors and even more so to younger players, who knows the next two may be the future of your club and keep it from closing.

 

[Deleted member 18121]

This is the problem, if it was just that the course was backed up then you should have let them through. The competition gives you a better argument for not to, but they might not have known about it. You should have spoken to them. Shooting at you was their mistake, ignoring them was yours. The fact that those mistakes are very different ends of the scale is not relevant, acknowledging your own is as it may prevent future unpleasantness on the course. I can't guarantee it but I very much doubt you'd be writing this thread for the sake of a

"Hi chaps, comp in front, going to be a slow day"

But you don't seem to be getting it. I wonder if you'll be back with another tale of woe soon? I hope not, I can't understand why folk can't just be welcoming particularly to visitors and even more so to younger players, who knows the next two may be the future of your club and keep it from closing.

Spoke with one of my playing partners at lunch time and he said he told them on the 3rd tee that there was a comp in front of us. All 6 of us were standing on the tee as the last group of the comp were walking up the fairway.

 

[Curls]

Spoke with one of my playing partners at lunch time and he said he told them on the 3rd tee that there was a comp in front of us. All 6 of us were standing on the tee as the last group of the comp were walking up the fairway.

Vindication? You didn't know that until now, you didn't speak to the two ball, so it doesn't change what you did wrong or your opinion as you voiced it above from the position you thought you were in this morning. You were (and I suspect would still be) quite happy to ignore them.

Odd that this wouldn't have come up at the time of the incident, but I'll take you and your partners word for it and stand by my volition that being pleasant towards these guys MIGHT have changed events and with a different two-ball MIGHT (in fact probably would) prevent something unpleasant on the course happening again.

 

[Deleted member 18121]

Vindication? You didn't know that until now, you didn't speak to the two ball, so it doesn't change what you did wrong or your opinion as you voiced it above from the position you thought you were in this morning. You were (and I suspect would still be) quite happy to ignore them.

Odd that this wouldn't have come up at the time of the incident, but I'll take you and your partners word for it and stand by my volition that being pleasant towards these guys MIGHT have changed events and with a different two-ball MIGHT (in fact probably would) prevent something unpleasant on the course happening again.

The fact that 1 of the guys in my 4 ball spoke to them on the 3rd tee is complete vindication as they knew several holes in advance of the incidents what the situation was. The fact that I personally didn't chat with them is neither here nor there, but there was amicable dialogue between the groups - albeit it wasn't me personally that chatted with them.

I can only assume that you believe what they did was right and is something you would also do to try and speed up your round.

Good luck to you.

 

[SaintHacker]

Spoke with one of my playing partners at lunch time and he said he told them on the 3rd tee that there was a comp in front of us. All 6 of us were standing on the tee as the last group of the comp were walking up the fairway.

At this point surley the common sense thing would have been for all 6 of you to hit your drives, your group then takes a slow amble to your balls while the two ball move ahead and play there second shots. They're through and out your way and its probably cost you 3 minutes maximum.

 

[Curls]

The fact that 1 of the guys in my 4 ball spoke to them on the 3rd tee is complete vindication as they knew several holes in advance of the incidents what the situation was. The fact that I personally didn't chat with them is neither here nor there, but there was amicable dialogue between the groups - albeit it wasn't me personally that chatted with them.

I can only assume that you believe what they did was right and is something you would also do to try and speed up your round.

Good luck to you.

In which case I can only assume that you didn't read the parts of my posts that you didn't want to, I can't even remember how many times I reiterated the unacceptability of this behaviour.

It's funny because I've never been dragged into an internet argument and as I near my 1,000th post here (a number about to be dwarfed by the views on this thread - hope it's a good read lads and lassies!) it has finally happened. I can see now how these things get out of hand, you start thinking you know the story and then as the argument develops things are added, new facts come to light that if they were known would have been introduced earlier (amicable dialogue on the tee?!). Then someone accuses you of behaviour you couldn't comprehend. I can see how someone would lose it and start slagging, thankfully I'm a very calm person by nature.

Enjoy your golf, be mindful of those around you, welcome visitors instead of ignoring them, they won't all be maniacs.

 

[Deleted member 18121]

At this point surley the common sense thing would have been for all 6 of you to hit your drives, your group then takes a slow amble to your balls while the two ball move ahead and play there second shots. They're through and out your way and its probably cost you 3 minutes maximum.

In hindsight yes, as I didn't enjoy having balls fired at me on subsequent holes......I should have then left the mens competition entries to deal with them having balls fired at them.

You may think me wrong, which is your right, but I personally didn't (and still don't) see the point in letting people play through when we were also being held up on every shot on every hole.

 

[Deleted member 18121]

Enjoy your golf, be mindful of those around you, welcome visitors instead of ignoring them, they won't all be maniacs.

I always am and luckily for me this is the first time this incident has occurred in my 17 years of playing golf.

 

[richart]

How do you know Adam that the players in the competition wouldn't let a two ball through ? I have been last off in a competition as a fourball, and we let a two ball through. Not a problem and got them out of our hair. Isn't it the decision of the group in front of you whether they let anyone through, rather than for you to speculate what they would do ?

At my Club a two ball has priority over a fourball, and should be let through, even if they then get held up by a competition. Just seems to me if you had done that the subsequent problems wouldn't have happened. Hindsight is your friend.

 

[devonboy]

Played at Celtic Manor today, we were playing a 4ball and on the 4th let a 2ball through who were playing a matchplay comp. Anyhow course was busy and we got stuck behind the 2ball who had nowhere to go as it was backed up.

On the 8th the group behind drove when we were in range and it whistled past my mate's head. It was a blind shot so thought we'd give them the benefit of the doubt and moved on. On the 9th same again with two drives from those behind which went through us!!

Two balls thrown in the rough and I did contemplate going back for a word but common sense prevailed and I called the club house who apologised and said we'd done the right thing and sent out a Marshall for a word.

What annoyed be more than anything though is we saw them in the clubhouse at the end and not one of them apologised.

Guess thats the welsh for ya

 

[Deleted member 18121]

Played at Celtic Manor today, we were playing a 4ball and on the 4th let a 2ball through who were playing a matchplay comp. Anyhow course was busy and we got stuck behind the 2ball who had nowhere to go as it was backed up.

On the 8th the group behind drove when we were in range and it whistled past my mate's head. It was a blind shot so thought we'd give them the benefit of the doubt and moved on. On the 9th same again with two drives from those behind which went through us!!

Two balls thrown in the rough and I did contemplate going back for a word but common sense prevailed and I called the club house who apologised and said we'd done the right thing and sent out a Marshall for a word.

What annoyed be more than anything though is we saw them in the clubhouse at the end and not one of them apologised.

Guess thats the welsh for ya

Good man, nice to hear someone else feeling my pain and doinh something about it..... the 2 ball should have let you through

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I can't see how letting the two ball is going to make any difference. If I was playing in the competition there is no way I'd be wanting a two ball to come playing through the field. I blame the club for letting the two ball so soon after the competition. I do agree that their behaviour was rude and ignorant and to be honest visitor or not I would be making my annoyance known. It is dangerous. End of

 

[Tommo21]

Hi all

Played my club yesterday in a 4 ball, we were the first group out behind the mens comp.... so a lot of waiting on the tees and on the fairway to play shots. The sun was shining so hey ho.

The 2 ball behind us were obviously getting frustrated and on the 10th fired a shot into the green barely as we left it.... a few glances were shared as to be fair the guy gave a good shout of fore.

But then on the remaining holes we had 2 tee shots blasted over our heads.... I mean wtf is wrong with people, they could see we were being held up. My 4 ball are all pretty chilled out and none of us are the types to confront these kind of people but I wish we were. I felt like picking up the ball and lobbing it in the pond.

Firstly, I would tend to ask them to play away on the first if they were also waiting.

Secondly, they must have known a comp was in front.

Thirdly, I defo would have asked after the shot came into the green if they were in a hurry. That would have started the ball rolling.

Fourthly, I would just hit the through ball away and I mean away so it gets lost. Done it before and I’ll do it again if it happens.

I’ve had to call an ambulance when my mate was truck with a ball, by accident. Anyone who clearly hits through is declaring war.