DCB
Well-known member
Never heard of the likes before. We certainly seem to play a different game up here.
I Know it is Tradition but it is Still Annoying
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chris661
Money List Winner
thecraw; said:
Really? Do they not get the year of vice and captain for nowt.
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
What an outdated load of Bolux....!
If you have time constraints there's 2 options.
Go out earlier and book the bloody thing or
Don't go out at all.
If the Captain at any club I was a member at did that then I wouldn't want to be a member of that club.
A polite request would almost certainly be greeted with a positive outcome but to effectively barge in and jump the queue just ain't right.
If you have time constraints there's 2 options.
Go out earlier and book the bloody thing or
Don't go out at all.
If the Captain at any club I was a member at did that then I wouldn't want to be a member of that club.
A polite request would almost certainly be greeted with a positive outcome but to effectively barge in and jump the queue just ain't right.
Dellboy
Challenge Tour Pro
Happen to me last month, just two of us waiting to tee off ( we had a booked tee time ) when the club captain turned up with 3 others.
Said very much the same as the OP here, "sorry chaps but got to rush ahead as the nights are closing in we will be tight getting a full 18 in"
Must say 2 of his playing partners did look a big sheepish, one even saying "don't worry we will be waving you through by the 5th "
Thankfully we got through them on the 7th, after 3 of the 4 ball hit into the woods, but wasn't waved through by the captain but the young chap who spoke on the first tee, all we got from the captain was a filthy look, and to make matters worse they all walked in after the 9th.
Dellboy
P.S Just like to say this was not my home course but one just down the road from me.
Said very much the same as the OP here, "sorry chaps but got to rush ahead as the nights are closing in we will be tight getting a full 18 in"
Must say 2 of his playing partners did look a big sheepish, one even saying "don't worry we will be waving you through by the 5th "
Thankfully we got through them on the 7th, after 3 of the 4 ball hit into the woods, but wasn't waved through by the captain but the young chap who spoke on the first tee, all we got from the captain was a filthy look, and to make matters worse they all walked in after the 9th.
Dellboy
P.S Just like to say this was not my home course but one just down the road from me.
MashieNiblick
Tour Winner
Why on earth did he want to go ahead of you? You won't hold him up, quite the opposite as was proved. Just an ego trip I guess. They do it because they can. No brain at all some of them.
(Need "shakes head" smiley)
Whee
Challenge Tour Pro
Name and shame the course pal, for those of us from your neck of the woods.
welshjim22
Head Pro
Would not be impressed if that had been me and certainly would have made my displeasure known. Although politely, well to start with. If he doesn't want to be captain without such stupid perks he shouldn't be captain. It's is old fashioned traditions that hold the sport back.
HawkeyeMS
Ryder Cup Winner
No idea if that's a rule at our place but as Homer said, I'm pretty sure he'd get a frosty reception if he did it. TBH if I was captain, not that I ever will be or have any desire to be I hasten to add, I wouldn't exercise the right even if I had it. As has been said before, if you can't get up earlier and you need to get home, don't play. I'm guessing as captain he spends most of his spare time at the club anyway and has plenty of opportunities to play, probably a lot more opportunities than those on the tee on Saturday morning waiting to play the only round of the week so captain or not, he needs to have a little think about what's right and decent in modern society. Times have changed, golf clubs have changed and if you ask me, stuff like this isn't acceptable.
RobbOnTheRock
Assistant Pro
It speaks volumes about the kind of person he is, whether he has right to do so or not, to me is immaterial.
ivan
Medal Winner
thought the idea of being Captain was to serve the club, not for the club to serve you. or am i being niave?
SocketRocket
Ryder Cup Winner
I never brought up the subject, where did you get that from? My club belongs to the membership and the members make up the rules, you agree to them when joining. If you dont like the way the club operates then actively participate and introduce changes, or put up with what your lack of commitment allows.
I have an opinion on this and have stated it. If you disagree then thats also your perogative, even if it is pathetic (to use your terminology)
Oddsocks
Ryder Cup Winner
Ours is only a small members section within a local muni course but both current and ex captain are sound chaps, if they need to be away early after our Sunday roll up (9am start) they arrive at 8am sharp, if their not worried about a finishing time the rock up at 8:50. As a mark of respect captains are always offered first tee slot and always decline saying its unfair to those who got their at 8am.
Like others im all for tradition, and respect the captain and their position, just seems your captain what's it a bit one way?
Like others im all for tradition, and respect the captain and their position, just seems your captain what's it a bit one way?
chrisd
Major Champion
This thread goes to show how tradition and values have changed over the years. Ours is a traditional club and it's not that the Captain would march up and demand to take precedence on the tee. The players who were next to go would honour what has always been traditional, and invite the Captain to go next should he wish to do so. Some do and some don't take up the offer.
Many people here seem to have an inbuilt anti authority attitude but they forget what the Captain does for them during the year in office. Our current Captain is , to me, a prize ****** , but for the members he runs the Golf Committee, organises most of the mens matches, turns up at loads of functions and gives speeches at the drop of a hat. He runs a charity during the year and, this year, gave £5k + to the hospice. He represents the Club at all manner of events, ones we would all like to do to the most mundane ones. He gets involved with sorting out all manner of problems for the Club with players, suppliers, staff etc etc and loads more of other jobs.
What do they get for their trouble - at our place ... one years free subs (worth £1000) but they Captains job cost one Captain (he told me) about £3k during his year. The pleasure and the pain that goes with the job and the privilige on the tee if he cares to!
I wouldn't do the job if you picked me up in a gold limo on a Sunday!! and I especially wouldn't do it for people who would moan about an odd privilige that is traditional at most member clubs
Chris
Many people here seem to have an inbuilt anti authority attitude but they forget what the Captain does for them during the year in office. Our current Captain is , to me, a prize ****** , but for the members he runs the Golf Committee, organises most of the mens matches, turns up at loads of functions and gives speeches at the drop of a hat. He runs a charity during the year and, this year, gave £5k + to the hospice. He represents the Club at all manner of events, ones we would all like to do to the most mundane ones. He gets involved with sorting out all manner of problems for the Club with players, suppliers, staff etc etc and loads more of other jobs.
What do they get for their trouble - at our place ... one years free subs (worth £1000) but they Captains job cost one Captain (he told me) about £3k during his year. The pleasure and the pain that goes with the job and the privilige on the tee if he cares to!
I wouldn't do the job if you picked me up in a gold limo on a Sunday!! and I especially wouldn't do it for people who would moan about an odd privilige that is traditional at most member clubs
Chris
bobmac
Major Champion
To be fair, he also gets free golf at most golf courses for the year.
need_my_wedge
Has Now Found His Wedgie
Pretty much sums up my thoughts too. We have no tee booking, captain has priority on the course. Only once in the 4 years or so that I've been a ember have I been queueing in a roll up one morning when the captain has turned up with his 4 ball and walked straight onto the tee. It's the club rule/ tradition, don't see an issue with it, meant I had to wait another 5 minutes or so......
I know that the captain puts a lot of time an effort into being around for all the club matches, raising money for charity and generally helping oil the club along. If he gets priority on the tee for that, good luck to him, he generally earns it.
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thecraw
Guest
Captain DOES NOT have to take up the role, he/she can pass up on the invite when they are asked to become the vice captain.
I'm not against the idea of any captain and I am no belittling their role but privilege over me on the tee when I'm an equal member. Not a chance will they be doing that to me. Traditions of the game I have no problem in upholding. A tie walks up to me when I'm about to tee off and says, we need to go back up the 19th I'll step aside.
chrisd
Major Champion
Trouble is Craw, if everyone shared your view, nobody would take on the role and I would take the view that it does belittle the captains role. So the Captain can do loads of work all the year that benefits you, and you would refuse to honour the tradition (or maybe, the rules) at your club because the Captain is no more important than you. I accept that we are all the same but sometimes we all acknowledge that for what someone gives they deserve some sort of privilege
Do you feel the same when you play in a match for your club and the Captains table get its dinner first ...... because its traditional? Would you say that he should refuse the captaincy if he wasn't happy to be served last?
Chris
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thecraw
Guest
Bottom line is these guys DECIDE to give their time to the running of the golf club, no one forces them to go onto the committee/board.
Why does he/she deserve priority on the tee? Absolute nonsense.
Why does he/she deserve priority on the tee? Absolute nonsense.
chrisd
Major Champion
Bottom, bottom line is, if these guys dont give their time then you dont have a club, and, if they stand for a position knowing that one the "perks" (if you can call it that) is priority on the tee for the Captain then what right has anyone to deny them their right? I have done committee work for my golf club and have Chaired my local football club for 40 years and no, I don't expect anyone to bow and scrape to me but I do expect to be treated with a modicum of respect
I would be more impressed if members bought the matter up at the AGM and asked for the right to be abolished if they were so against it, rather than say on here that they would just refuse to stand aside
Chris
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thecraw
Guest
Absolute utter pish.
Clubs will always run, with or without a captain what will change? A committee/board will always be elected and run the club. Infact I'll tell you what the match secretary is more deserving of a free tee time/honour on the tee than someone who has achieved the ultimate goal of what THEY want when appointed club captain.
A self obsessed goal which they can add to their CV and impress their circle of friends with by saying they are the Captain.
Captains are not appointed they put themselves forward because they want to become involved and have some sort of status, its because they need to have this, not because the club wants them.
As I say they would not move me from the tee. I pay my fees.
