I Know it is Tradition but it is Still Annoying

TheJezster

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No I don't use a GPS but that is not to say that I won't in future.
Cargo trousers are for tradesmen and adventurers, not golfers.

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Snelly.

Ahem, speak for yourself, i think given the state of my play and the number of trees at my course I AM an adventurer... ;-)
 
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No I don't use a GPS but that is not to say that I won't in future.

In addition, I think broomhandle putters should be banned. Adjustable drivers are a waste of time. If you are fit and healthy then you should carry your clubs. You should shower and change into a different set of clothes to go into the bar. The benefits of custom fitted clubs are miniscule. Everyone should have to put £100 on their club card in January. White golf shoes are unacceptable. Mixed golf is for pensioners. A round of golf should not take more than 4 hours. No-one needs more than 3 wedges. Pre-shot routines are mostly nonsense. Good golf doesn't come from buying the latest kit. Practice swings are unecessary. Jeans are a no-no. Golf clubs should feel like special occasion places. Cargo trousers are for tradesmen and adventurers, not golfers.

That is probably a good summation of my views but feel free to remind me of something else I have been unecessarily vexed about on this forum recently by all means!

:D

PS forgot that you should always take your hat off in the clubhouse or when shaking hands at the end of a match.

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Snelly.


Damn! Forgot to mention that golf insurance is a con!
 

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Over the past two years, I have been lucky enough to have been invited to a couple of charity days at Bearwood Lakes (thanks Paul!). Dress code for the evenings celebrations has been "smart casual". It was nice not to have to wear a collar and tie, a smart pair of trousers/chinos and an open necked, collared shirt were order of the day. Some guys still took it upon themselves to come dressed up in suits and ties etc. but it was their choice. The ladies still looked on it as an opportunity to dress up. Nice.
When we go to play at Cooden each year on our forum meet, the dress code for the evening meal is collar and tie. We know that before we go, so we wear it. It is their "tradition"...we want to play their course, we want to enjoy their hospitality, we abide by their "rules". If you don't like it, don't attend. Simples.
So I am prepared to "give and take" to a certain extent.
But I cannot abide seeing jeans worn on a golf course. Or cargo shorts. Or T-shirts. Or shirts un-tucked. I hate all of these things with a passion when seen in the vicinity of a golf course.
And if I were a member of a club that decided to relax it's dress code and start allowing these things to go on, I'd leave. Again, simples.
I'm not a snob. Far from it. When I am away from the course I live, eat and breathe in jeans and t shirts.
But don't take away the very fabric of the game, the things that attracted me to golf in the first place.

Blimy old chap I agree with everything you have written. Could have been me writing it. We said Smiffy
 

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It's still fantastic to watch rugby (both codes), witness the controlled aggression, and never once see disrespect on the field .... Look how prevalent cheating has become just because it wasn't frowned upon when it first started happening.

Yeah right; i watched a game at the pinnacle of world rugby league a week back, and instead of getting up after a tackle, the tackler decided to try and break the guys leg by bending in back against his knee - seemd highly respectful to me, trying to end someone's career. Not to mention the preponderence of neck high tackles and forearm smashes to the face. Never mind, it's tradition in rugby league - controlled agression my backside.
 

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Tradition ... polo shirts and chinos ???
Golf is a working class game, to be played in working class clothes - ask old Tom Morris and his ilk
 

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To those that feel respect must be earned, if someone who'd never met you came up to and treated you like ..... you'd kick off. Everyone should have a level of respect afforded to them and whether that goes up or down depends on their behaviour - no one starts at a base level and must earn every ounce.

Respecting a position, e.g. do you respect your GP, local bobby or Lord Mayor. That's a little bit tougher to quantify but reading some of the posts there appears to be some who whether through a subconcious level of insecurity or inverted snobbishness refuse to recognise the efforts of others even when the majority do.

we don't have to deal with extremes to make a point. If you believe that respect must be earned by the individual and not simply exist because of the position it doesn't mean that you punch him in the face automatically, neither does it mean you stand there and tug your forelock. Something in the middle is appropriate.

To the same tolken the golfing world won't come crashing down if someone wears cargo trousers on the course, blue jeans maybe but not trousers with extra pockets ;)
 

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Yeah right; i watched a game at the pinnacle of world rugby league a week back, and instead of getting up after a tackle, the tackler decided to try and break the guys leg by bending in back against his knee - seemd highly respectful to me, trying to end someone's career. Not to mention the preponderence of neck high tackles and forearm smashes to the face. Never mind, it's tradition in rugby league - controlled agression my backside.
I think you'll find that I was referring to a players attitude towards the referee. Fouls will always happen in an impact sport. I played at a decent level for 10 years and suffered several injuries including a fractured knee, broken nose, broken fingers etc. I never failed to respect the referee and shake hands with the opposing team after the match. Tradition , and also respect, demands it.
 

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Blimy old chap I agree with everything you have written. Could have been me writing it. We said Smiffy

Another finding it very hard to argue with Smiffy's point. If you want to play other courses then you do so agreeing to theirr rules. Just because your club may be lax on enforcing no changing in the car park isn't an excuse to take that attitude somewhere else. Again probably because I'm becoming a grumpy old git I quite like to get changed into a jacket and tie from time to time and have a decent meal, good prize gving. It makes some club matches we play, days out, etc feel that little bit more special than a regular run of the mill game. Not advocating a change back to jacket and tie in the bar after 6.00 or any of those archaic rules 9although if the club still operates it when I visit I'll happily comply) but sometimes it makes a change
 

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we don't have to deal with extremes to make a point. If you believe that respect must be earned by the individual and not simply exist because of the position it doesn't mean that you punch him in the face automatically, neither does it mean you stand there and tug your forelock. Something in the middle is appropriate.

To the same tolken the golfing world won't come crashing down if someone wears cargo trousers on the course, blue jeans maybe but not trousers with extra pockets ;)

"Something in the middle is appropriate." Thought that was what I was alluding to. "Everyone should have a level of respect afforded to them" actually suggests its a two way street, which certainly wouldn't lead onto forelock tugging.

And I think perhaps you misunderstood "you'd kick off." Or maybe "kick off" is punch up in your neck of the woods. And where did I say I "believe respect must be earned."

You no-ie speaky any englishy??
 

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Another finding it very hard to argue with Smiffy's point. If you want to play other courses then you do so agreeing to theirr rules. Just because your club may be lax on enforcing no changing in the car park isn't an excuse to take that attitude somewhere else. Again probably because I'm becoming a grumpy old git I quite like to get changed into a jacket and tie from time to time and have a decent meal, good prize gving. It makes some club matches we play, days out, etc feel that little bit more special than a regular run of the mill game. Not advocating a change back to jacket and tie in the bar after 6.00 or any of those archaic rules 9although if the club still operates it when I visit I'll happily comply) but sometimes it makes a change

Where as I am totally the opposite in that I wear a suit ad tie every day of the week and putting one on at the weekend does not feel special, it feels like putting my work clothes back on. Don't get me wrong, I actually agree that shirt and tie should be worn for prize givings and matches, even when I played rugby we wore a shirt and tie after a match and for awards, I just do no find it special.

So, happy to wear a shirt and tie for matches and prize givings, agree that it should be trousers and polo shirts on the course and I am even happy with a no taners rule in the club house but I would use the club house more (i.e spontaneously and not just after golf) if I could wear jeans.
 
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