Howard Webb,.... above his own station!!!!!?

[bladeplayer]

Not sure of the relevance of the question ,, but i will answer you

no but ive seen most things that are a few feet in front of me, suposadley a world class referee .. and a copper to boot ,, as i say not a pool fan but he should have got that one ..

 

[JCW]

Totally missed the point

Regardless of the team and the player - that was as blatant a penalty as you can get and right under the nose of the ref

If he can't spot that is a penalty then he is clearly incapable of doing the job

To turn the focus onto the player is poor and just giving people an opportunity to once again have a dig at the player - despite his behaviour being impeccable this season

He is a diver , every ref knows that , like I said he has one sec to make up his mind and the player concern is a known diver , its like when I played cricket , scored not a lot of runs and given out LBW , moaned like mad in the dressing room and was told to check the score book , it says out LBW , that's life ...........................EYG

 

[Blue in Munich]

Totally missed the point

Regardless of the team and the player - that was as blatant a penalty as you can get and right under the nose of the ref

If he can't spot that is a penalty then he is clearly incapable of doing the job

To turn the focus onto the player is poor and just giving people an opportunity to once again have a dig at the player - despite his behaviour being impeccable this season

Have to agree that it was definitely a penalty but given his previous and the fact that he put in an Oscar winning performance probably went against him.

As for impeccable behaviour, does that include his attempts to get a penalty and Fabianski sent off by trying to persuade Webb that Agger had been punched by the keeper when in fact Fabianski missed everyone?

 

[Dodger]

Saurez was looking for it mind.

 

[JCW]

Have to agree that it was definitely a penalty but given his previous and the fact that he put in an Oscar winning performance probably went against him.

As for impeccable behaviour, does that include his attempts to get a penalty and Fabianski sent off by trying to persuade Webb that Agger had been punched by the keeper when in fact Fabianski missed everyone?

Rest My case ..........you get what you reap , cheat a lot and in the end nobody trusts you anymore no matter what you do , does not matter what was or is the correct decision , the ref did not give it

 

[USER1999]

Why haven't I seen 50 odd replays of Ozil being fouled in liverpools box? Or 50 odd replays of sterling handling the ref, and swearing at him? Or Sanogo getting fouled at every corner?

Because its more news worthy to look at the Suarez thing.

It's footy. You get rubbish decisions.

Apparently they even out.

They probably did.

 

[Foxholer]

Totally agree but the governing body haven't got the bottle to impose themselves

Certainly not against the big teams

Too much money riding on it ( and the FA get a big chunk of that money )

Actually, Dyke has tried to do that - with limited success. Even Ref's Association are not keen - probably a respect/ego thing.

http://news.sky.com/story/1152257/fa-chief-greg-dyke-wants-tougher-action

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...-FA-chairman-Greg-Dyke-wins-rules-battle.html

However, by doing too many of these, the authority of Refs is actually being chipped away, which is probably why their association wasn't keen on it when he first proposed it.

 

[Pin-seeker]

Let's be honest Skrtel gets away with murder every single game.Just watch him on corners & free kicks he's defending.
No doubt today's incident was a penalty & Webb should have to explain his actions. But quite a few incidents went against Arsenal aswell.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I guess shouldn't be surprised that it would turn into another thread to slag of Suarez

Plenty players have been booked for diving this season - Chelsea players , Arsenal players , Man Utd players , City players

Suarez hasn't

The thread I'm sure was/is about the poor decision making from Howard Webb as opposed to an opportunity to slate Liverpool or Suarez or Skrtel etc.

"REGARDLESS OF THE PLAYER OR TEAM" - Howard Webb is not competent enough to be a top level ref - too many big decisions are missed by him and not just in games with Liverpool and Suarez.

 

[Blue in Munich]

I guess shouldn't be surprised that it would turn into another thread to slag of Suarez

Plenty players have been booked for diving this season - Chelsea players , Arsenal players , Man Utd players , City players

Suarez hasn't

The thread I'm sure was/is about the poor decision making from Howard Webb as opposed to an opportunity to slate Liverpool or Suarez or Skrtel etc.

"REGARDLESS OF THE PLAYER OR TEAM" - Howard Webb is not competent enough to be a top level ref - too many big decisions are missed by him and not just in games with Liverpool and Suarez.

I haven'y got any points for speeding on my driving licence; doesn't alter the fact that I have exceeded the speed limit. There's a big difference between not doing it & not getting caught, as the fact that he was neither booked nor sent off for biting anyone last season proves.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I haven'y got any points for speeding on my driving licence; doesn't alter the fact that I have exceeded the speed limit. There's a big difference between not doing it & not getting caught, as the fact that he was neither booked nor sent off for biting anyone last season proves.

Howard Webb ?

 

[Pin-seeker]

Not really surprised that we've got yet another '"Poor us" thread after a Liverpool game.
Come on Phil even you've got to be getting bored of it now

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Not really surprised that we've got yet another '"Poor us" thread after a Liverpool game.
Come on Phil even you've got to be getting bored of it now

You can point out the poor us part if you so wish

"REGARDLESS OF TEAM OR PLAYER"

 

[JCW]

You can point out the poor us part if you so wish

"REGARDLESS OF TEAM OR PLAYER"

This is my last take on this , you don't always get what you should in life , that's how it is , many an honest person has had this but still stayed honest , this guy is a great player but everyone sees that talent and also all the cheating he tries at every game , that is a factor in him not getting the pen and everyone has a bad day but it don't make him or her a bad ref , thanks

 

[Blue in Munich]

Howard Webb ?

On the whole does a pretty good job, probably better than most, considering that he gets one look at it real time and a number of the players he has to deal with are trying to have him over. That said he did miss a penalty this afternoon but was probably confused by the fact that the player fouled did a headstand immediately after the contact. Maybe if said player, who cannot be named because of his immaculate disciplinary record, had just fallen over like he'd been fouled rather than thrown from a speeding motorcycle then he might have got the penalty.

 

[Oxfordcomma]

Every time a ref makes an error we get this, I do wonder sometimes how many of you have tried it? I have, I'm a qualified ref, have been for a few years now. Now I'm a level 7 ref, only ref youth football, and although I think I do a decent job I know I'm not really a great referee. The guys like Webb when you compare them to me are worlds apart just like Clichy or Cole are worlds apart from me when I (used to) put on the shinpads and play as a left back. But world class fullbacks screw things up sometimes, and so do world class refs.


Before anyone says anything, no I didn't see the game (I was playing golf!) but from the link to the gif you can see how the mistake might come, with the challenge being read as a shoulder to shoulder followed by Suarez falling over.As he does on occasion. IF, that is, you're standing where Webb is, and seeing it all in real time rather than on an endless replay with 3 camera angles. It's a really bad error, definitely, and Webb will be angry with himself just like a keeper is when they let in a soft near-post goal. But some of the comments boys, seriously?


"The refereeing in the Premiership at the games I've been to has been pretty shocking to be honest."
"shocking ref, always has been"
"shocking decisions from a shocking ref. should not come as a surprise."
"Howard Webb is not competent enough to be a top level ref"


Really??? Come on gents, I've played and coached enough football to know that all of the pro players are really very very good, even if they're playing rubbish that day. I've played enough golf to know that every single tour pro is really very very good, even when they're missing cuts or choking. I bet most guys on here can say both of those too. But I've also reffed enough games that I know every PMGO ref is really very very good, even when they miss things. I go to watch live football regularly and since I qualified, I haven't shouted abuse at officials in anywhere near the same manner. Not because of wanting to stick together with other refs, but just because now I actually understand what I'm watching.


On the slightly different tangent of the rugby/respect thing, I and every other grassroots ref in the country would LOVE IT TO BITS if they clamped down on it. You'd only have to send Rooney or Terry off a couple of times for swearing at a ref before every kid and hungover sunday league player in the country got the message.

 

[Foxholer]

Have to agree that it was definitely a penalty but given his previous and the fact that he put in an Oscar winning performance probably went against him.

My thoughts pretty much exactly. No way was it Oscar winning though - which was the problem.

Yes I'm certain Webb got it wrong. But looking for it and then flailing around like he did certainly didn't help his cause. He's stuck with the label of a diver now - and there's a touch of justice to that imo!

On the slightly different tangent of the rugby/respect thing, I and every other grassroots ref in the country would LOVE IT TO BITS if they clamped down on it. You'd only have to send Rooney or Terry off a couple of times for swearing at a ref before every kid and hungover sunday league player in the country got the message.

A sin-bin is the best solution to that imo.

That way it can be applied directly at all levels and eliminated straight away.

 

[the hammer]

Actually, Dyke has tried to do that - with limited success. Even Ref's Association are not keen - probably a respect/ego thing.

http://news.sky.com/story/1152257/fa-chief-greg-dyke-wants-tougher-action

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...-FA-chairman-Greg-Dyke-wins-rules-battle.html

However, by doing too many of these, the authority of Refs is actually being chipped away, which is probably why their association wasn't keen on it when he first proposed it.

I haven't read your links but what I was trying to say was not chip the ref/ linesmens authority away, but , where the finances/ technology allow, the authority could be shared. would this not help beat the cheats?

 

[Hobbit]

Liverpool fans mourning again ,Liverpool are not as good as the fans think they are ,

Coffee over the keyboard moment for me - lol. I'm no Liverpool fan by any stretch but... 4pts off the top, only 3 goals scored less than City, the 2nd best goal diff. Stats don't lie. Maybe take your blinkers off...

 

[Liverbirdie]

Coffee over the keyboard moment for me - lol. I'm no Liverpool fan by any stretch but... 4pts off the top, only 3 goals scored less than City, the 2nd best goal diff. Stats don't lie. Maybe take your blinkers off...

It's saying something JCW when a Boro fan(Hobbit) and an Evertonian(bladeplayer) are as flabbergasted by someone's bile and utter rubbish to comment ahead of the Liverpool fans. Congratulations.

Enjoy your chip on each shoulder.