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Did someone mention hickory? :D

The first irons were very crude affairs, blacksmith forged and no two were exactly alike but they were all blades of the simplest type, a flat piece of iron.
They stayed this way until around 1900 when people started to experiment a little by moving metal around in the blade to change the centre of gravity and inadvertently the MOI.
Most of these experiments focused on positioning the added weight behind the centre of the club in the idea that this would give a more solid strike, which indeed it did but at the same time it meant that off-centre hits were even worse.

Over time and much experimentation it was realised that mass lower down in the club head would assist in the launch of the ball and the blade developed into the form that just about everybody used up until the 1970s. Which means that everybody must have been great ball strikers if we believe what we're told today about those who can use blades.

In the late 1960s/early 1970s the first commercially successful attempts at perimeter weighting were made, and Karsten Solheim was one of the true pioneers in this area. His first ventures were in the early 1960s using solid blades and just milling out cavities in them, Google Ping Ballnamic irons for more info. The Ping Karsten 1 was released in 1968 and these were very successful clubs with many copies. These were followed by several improvements and then the Ping Eye and the most successful of all, the Ping Eye2.
Perimeter weighting was a huge step in making golf easier, although the distance the ball was hit was pretty much the same loft for loft, it was just that Ping irons were stronger lofted than many of their competitors at the time.

The next big change was the use of hot faces. These are thinner faces with better trampoline effects that do give better ball speed, I'm not sure when these really took off but probably post 2000. Multi material heads have also been big recently, tungsten weighting etc, but all that is really doing is providing perimeter weighting without it being obvious so the golfer can feel like a "player" with blades. I think it's hot faces that have caused issues with the occasional rocket ball that goes 20 yards longer than usual, and they also make touch shots such as chips around the green tricky as the ball comes off too fast.

So I'd say there have definitely been changes in the last 10 or 20 years, whether or not they're all positive is another matter.
 

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Did someone mention hickory? :D

The first irons were very crude affairs, blacksmith forged and no two were exactly alike but they were all blades of the simplest type, a flat piece of iron.
They stayed this way until around 1900 when people started to experiment a little by moving metal around in the blade to change the centre of gravity and inadvertently the MOI.
Most of these experiments focused on positioning the added weight behind the centre of the club in the idea that this would give a more solid strike, which indeed it did but at the same time it meant that off-centre hits were even worse.

Over time and much experimentation it was realised that mass lower down in the club head would assist in the launch of the ball and the blade developed into the form that just about everybody used up until the 1970s. Which means that everybody must have been great ball strikers if we believe what we're told today about those who can use blades.

In the late 1960s/early 1970s the first commercially successful attempts at perimeter weighting were made, and Karsten Solheim was one of the true pioneers in this area. His first ventures were in the early 1960s using solid blades and just milling out cavities in them, Google Ping Ballnamic irons for more info. The Ping Karsten 1 was released in 1968 and these were very successful clubs with many copies. These were followed by several improvements and then the Ping Eye and the most successful of all, the Ping Eye2.
Perimeter weighting was a huge step in making golf easier, although the distance the ball was hit was pretty much the same loft for loft, it was just that Ping irons were stronger lofted than many of their competitors at the time.

The next big change was the use of hot faces. These are thinner faces with better trampoline effects that do give better ball speed, I'm not sure when these really took off but probably post 2000. Multi material heads have also been big recently, tungsten weighting etc, but all that is really doing is providing perimeter weighting without it being obvious so the golfer can feel like a "player" with blades. I think it's hot faces that have caused issues with the occasional rocket ball that goes 20 yards longer than usual, and they also make touch shots such as chips around the green tricky as the ball comes off too fast.

So I'd say there have definitely been changes in the last 10 or 20 years, whether or not they're all positive is another matter.

As a novice back in the early 1980s, I bought a 2nd hand Ping Eye 2 driver from the pro shop at Greenburn GC.
With my 1st drive I caught the 260yard 1st green for the first and last time .
The starters name was Wullie Brick a very old [I thought } stern looking man, but polite, bossy, no nonsense ex miner.
Announcing me on the 1st tee he said " you're safe to go now William " then whack I somehow hit it right onto the green, he then declared "oops sorry William " . Happy days :love::love:.
He was probably the age I am now :eek::ROFLMAO:. PS players were still putting on the green :LOL:
 
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I had a full fitting coming up to 5 years ago. I’m interested in changing my driver and re-gapping below my 4 iron with whatever is most playable. There’s an argument that you should change your wedges a bit more frequently but I personally feel that I am used to how they react and with a 12.8 HI with an average swing speed I’m never going to generate much zip to notice the difference anyway.

I've no intentions on changing my irons though. Having a good properly fit set made a huge difference to my game and I see them lasting at least 10years. I mentioned my 4 iron above. I’d didn’t actually have one when I got fitted as I wanted something more reliable and bought a hybrid but I hit my 5 iron so well I bought the 4.
 

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To the OP, I suppose it all depends on what you were expecting from your clubs in the first place?

Distance, dispersion, ball flight, workability…. The list is endless and one improvement normally comes at the cost of a reduction in another area.

I got sucked I sucked into magpie-itis in 2014 and it ruined my game for almost 4 years, never again. Unless Stevie wonder fitted your clubs to the completely wrong spec, the biggest gains will always come from swing improvements. My CF16’s are safe and will be for at least another 5 years and that’s only because I’ll treat myself to a new set for my 50th.
 

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Ping Eye 2's were actually the first proper clubs I bought apart from a very tatty starter set.
Had them for nearly twenty years though that included a fair bit of time when I didn't play.
Current irons are my second set and 11-12 years old.
I am considering new clubs my mate who I play most golf with has just got new clubs and definitely a bit of envy creeping in.
 

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As a novice back in the early 1980s, I bought a 2nd hand Ping Eye 2 driver from the pro shop at Greenburn GC.
With my 1st drive I caught the 260yard 1st green for the first and last time .
The starters name was Wullie Brick a very old [I thought } stern looking man, but polite, bossy, no nonsense ex miner.
Announcing me on the 1st tee he said " you're safe to go now William " then whack I somehow hit it right onto the green, he then declared "oops sorry William " . Happy days :love::love:.
He was probably the age I am now :eek::ROFLMAO:. PS players were still putting on the green :LOL:

And there's me thinking you still had it sir!?
BTW...Did you hole the putt??:whistle:
 

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I tend to change my irons about every 4 or 5 years, that said I never go for new clubs and generally pick things up from Ebay.

Currently gaming PING G30 driver, 3 wood and hybrids, Srixon Z765 irons and a variety of wedges.

My oldest club in the bag is an MD Golf colbolt 50 degree wedge, keep thinking about changing it but like it too much.
 

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How often is too often. I have had seven sets of irons this year alone.
Callaway Legacy Black
Callaway Apex mb 2018
Cleveland 588mb
MizunoJPX 919
Miura 501 cbTM
TM P770
and now Callaway Apex Pro 16.

I've had numerous drivers, putters and wedges, and I have no idea of how many different combinations of fairways and hybrids I've had this last twelve months. Plus this year is in no way different from last year or any other preceding it.

Why? Because I can and because I just love trying different clubs. I only wish I could keep them all, but it's a case of buy, try, sell (there are two sets of irons on eBay currently)

Does it hurt my game, not really. I started the season at 6.6 and finished at 8.2. Any difficulty in progressing lower is hampered by an inability to read greens and a tendency to pull drives deep into trees.

The current set up has the potential to be in the bag for a while, but nobody should hold there breath;)
 

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I need new wedges and generally changed them every couple of years. Irons, woods are in the bag for at least 5 years before I even think about changing them
 

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I had 2 set of Mizuno blades (TP original's and Pro original) I switched between for about 15 years (they were the same spec) but 3 years ago i bought my srixon irons and cant see me changing for a while yet
I wouldn't change them Irons if I was you, but a Bronty Chipmaster would be an asset for you
 

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How often is too often. I have had seven sets of irons this year alone.
Callaway Legacy Black
Callaway Apex mb 2018
Cleveland 588mb
MizunoJPX 919
Miura 501 cbTM
TM P770
and now Callaway Apex Pro 16.

I've had numerous drivers, putters and wedges, and I have no idea of how many different combinations of fairways and hybrids I've had this last twelve months. Plus this year is in no way different from last year or any other preceding it.

Why? Because I can and because I just love trying different clubs. I only wish I could keep them all, but it's a case of buy, try, sell (there are two sets of irons on eBay currently)

Does it hurt my game, not really. I started the season at 6.6 and finished at 8.2. Any difficulty in progressing lower is hampered by an inability to read greens and a tendency to pull drives deep into trees.

The current set up has the potential to be in the bag for a while, but nobody should hold there breath;)

There is nothing wrong with changing clubs frequently if that what you enjoy. For some people, a watch is a watch is a watch, and they buy a new one only after years or decades when the one they wear every day fails. Some people will have a collection, enjoy the aesthetics, design, and matching of them to the occasion or what they are wearing, like jewellery. Which is fine. But they dont change them in the expectation that the time precision will be any different, or that they will be more punctual.
Most golfers, while they may like clubs to be the latest as seen on TV model, or looking cool to their eye, and can change them according to their means, know it isnt because it will have any effect on their game. There is a small minority who have been effected by the outlandish claims, which on reflection, seems strange that they can get away with making them, made by the manufacturers in their marketing, and do seem to believe it.
 

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Coincidentally ( or maybe he is following this discussion :)), Mark Crossfield has a good test up comparing an old and new metal driver, which is more than just, "I hit it way better with the driver I have now than the one I had five years ago" type comment. Worth a look.
Interesting that the Great Big Bertha is a design back from the 460cc COR limit ones brought in 15 or whatever years ago. With no difference in the performance that could translate to a difference in anyones golf as he leads to with such a big range in club vintage, would clearly indicate that there is no difference whatsoever, in clubs since they all pretty much settled on the same design bar paintwork, and aerolators, and low friction varnishes, etc.

 

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Coincidentally ( or maybe he is following this discussion :)), Mark Crossfield has a good test up comparing an old and new metal driver, which is more than just, "I hit it way better with the driver I have now than the one I had five years ago" type comment. Worth a look.
Interesting that the Great Big Bertha is a design back from the 460cc COR limit ones brought in 15 or whatever years ago. With no difference in the performance that could translate to a difference in anyones golf as he leads to with such a big range in club vintage, would clearly indicate that there is no difference whatsoever, in clubs since they all pretty much settled on the same design bar paintwork, and aerolators, and low friction varnishes, etc.

As is often the case though, he is a very good golfer, pro, and so hits it out of the middle over and over. One of the biggest advances, probably the big advance, is forgiveness. One sweet spot became 3, became 5, became 7 etc. The advance definitely help the amateur who hit it all over the face.
 

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Always keen to try as many new releases as I can, but I rarely find anything that really out performs what I have already. My 4 and 5 hybrids are definite keepers as they are working better than the equivalent irons. I updated my driver last year. My wedges are from 2015 so probably need replacing but I am not happy with the current Ping wedges in terms of how they feel. May look at some off Golfbidder but they are functional for now. My I series irons are as good as the idiot holding them and sadly that applies to any make or model so no real merit in changing them until someone brings out that model that is a real wow factor for me
 
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