How do you handle it when your advised you have broken the rules?

Hmmm

Interesting to find this out. Is it any different that his yardage was on a GPS?
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No...source of the distance is irrelevant.....GPS, Laser, Yardage book, distance markers, pacing it out....all can be shared freely with anyone else.

What you're NOT allowed to say for example is:


"175 yards, so what iron do you think I should hit here?"


Similarly, he couldn't say, "I would take an extra club if I were you"

The above would constitute giving/receiving advice and is not allowed.
 
Can I just clarify the "bunker" thing????

On a par 4, I put my drive into a large, fairway bunker. Walk up to it and there is only one rake in said bunker, which is at the far end.
I pick up said rake, and to save time (we're waiting for the green to clear by the way) I chuck the rake into the bunker close to my ball, but not close enough to impede me. This is done purely to save time in my eyes.
Am I breaking the rules???
'cos if so, I've done it loads of times

:o :o :o :o :o :o :o
 
Can I just clarify the "bunker" thing????

On a par 4, I put my drive into a large, fairway bunker. Walk up to it and there is only one rake in said bunker, which is at the far end.
I pick up said rake, and to save time (we're waiting for the green to clear by the way) I chuck the rake into the bunker close to my ball, but not close enough to impede me. This is done purely to save time in my eyes.
Am I breaking the rules???
'cos if so, I've done it loads of times

:o :o :o :o :o :o :o
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Can't see why not. You're not testing the sand :D
 
You're OK Smiffy. Decision 13-4/21 - Rake Thrown into Bunker Before Stroke

"Q. A player's ball lies in a bunker. He casually throws a rake into the bunker for use after his stroke. The rake does not move his ball or improve the lie of the ball. Does the player incur a penalty?

A. Placing a rake in a bunker is permissible. In this case, throwing the rake into the bunker was the equivalent of placing it. If the rake had moved the ball, the player would incur a penalty of one stroke for causing his ball to move; and the ball would have to be replaced – Rule 18-2a."

Hickoryshaft's post shows how easy it is for rules myths to be propagated. If he hadn't posted on here he'd have accepted what he was told on both those points. No reason not to as the other guy was a 1st team player and you'd expect him to know the rules. But imagine if HS had pulled someone up later for giving a yardage or lending them a ball? Could've been embarrassing.
 
I have absolutely no problem if someone points out a rules infringement to me but it really is the plonkers who "make up " the rules as they go along that get me

I played in a 4BBB matchplay a while back and played a shot out of the trees out of turn. We got to the green and everyone had been all over the place on this par 5, so gobs**ite went through who was scoring what on the hole. He pointed at me, "your out of the hole as you played out of turn" he announced and was really miffed when I pointed out that the only penalty was, that he could have asked me to go back and replay the shot, so long as it was before his pair had played another shot, so it was too late by then.

Chris
 
The guy breaking twigs with his practice swing is not necessarily breaking the rules. This is a common mis conception.

From decisions on .....

q. A players ball lies near a tree or bush. The player takes a practice swing near his ball, and knocks down some leaves in the area of his intended swing. Is this in breach of rule 13.2?

A. The answer depends on whether the area of the intended swing is improved. In some cases the knocking down of a number of leaves would not improve the area of the intended swing as the player still has to swing through a number of remaining leaves when making his stroke. In such circumstances there would be no breach of the rules.
In other cases the knocking down of a single leaf might improve the area of the intended swing, in which case there would be a breach of rule 13.2.

If a player has improved the area of his intended swing by knocking down a leaf or number of leaves, he cannot avoid penalty under rule 13.2 by subsequently changing the area of his swing when he actually makes the stroke.


So by knocking a twig off on his practice swing, he may not have incurred a penalty.

People often get this rule wrong, and it annoys me how many of them are dead sure they are correct.
 
Oh murph it definately improved he's swing area. It broke a dangling branch and about a foots worth, in turn he's back swing was less restricted. Definately rule infringement I'm sure your agree ;)
 
Oh murph it definately improved he's swing area. It broke a dangling branch and about a foots worth, in turn he's back swing was less restricted. Definately rule infringement I'm sure your agree ;)
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Sure, but the number of times some numpty has tried to pull me up for knocking off one leaf.
 
lol, i suppose like all golf rules due to the way they have been written its down to how people understand them as an individual. this is why i would love to see golf rules re written in every day english and more directly, not faffying around the houses.
 
lol, i suppose like all golf rules due to the way they have been written its down to how people understand them as an individual. this is why i would love to see golf rules re written in every day english and more directly, not faffying around the houses.
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If they were written in everday English, I would say they are for more likely to be misinterpreted. They are so complex precisely because there are so many different situations to be covered and a lot of them require their own specific exceptions to the rule (literally).

As someone once said, every complicated system started out as a simple system. The rules of golf were pretty simple in 1744. Now look.
 
I've had penalties pointed out to me twice since I started playing again.

Firstly for knocking about half a dozen small leaves off a half inch thick branch that was on my backswing. They only fell off because the branch hit my club about halfway along the shaft.

The other was for wiping a dirty great lump of mud off my ball on the green.

I argued both before I signed my card and none of them were counted.

The most annoying thing was the club only has a rule book, not a decisions book, so I had to use my phone to look them up on the R&A site.

Does anyone know where the cheapest place to get a decisions book is?
 
I've got the rule book, but both of the rules I was allegedly pulled up on need the decisions book to put the silly £&"%$^& in their place.
 
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