Have you ever reported someone for cheating?

i played in the caroustie tassie last year, 3 ball the blokes card i was marking was a lawyer,over the 36holes i had to re correct him 3 times as to what he had scored on the hole,and suprise suprise he always thought he was lower than he was, he also had a dodgy drop on the 3 hole, so when he well in with a chance of going through to the matchplay stages which he was desparate to quailfy for, on our 35 hole the 17th on the championship course, he had a 15, couldnt get out of a bunker then shanked it into another, i had a very cheeky smug grin on my face,cheats never prosper
 
thecraw said:
I'm far from angry about anything old bean, I'm just pointing out that someone who tees it up in front of the marker is not automatically a cheat, even if it is 3 or 4 times a round. Maybe he has one eye stronger than the other!
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Or the markers aren't square with the hole.

Plenty of times at ours players have walked onto the tee and teed it up square with the marker in front of them, only for someone to point out that Mr. Magoo has put the other marker about 2yds back of where would be square to the hole.

I really don't see the point in letting the player tee off then apply the penalty like some seem to do.
 
Hobbit said:
Guy I played with yesterday tried a couple of dodgy ones. I pulled him up for them straightaway. Sadly I've had to do it to him several times in the past, as have several guys in our roll up. Its minor stuff like teeing up in front of the markers. Not replacing his ball properly, and standing back of your putt to watch the line.
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Standing behind the line of your opponents putt isn't cheating, it's allowed. You can't however stand behind your partners putt to get a read.
 
Midnight said:
This may seem a silly question and I may of missed this, but what does constitute teeing up in front of the markers please ? I thought you were either in front or not ?

Cheers

Midnight...
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it's not a silly question at all.

all of the ball has to be in front of a line between the leading edges of the tee markers to be forward of the teeing ground - so it's easy for a ball correctly positioned to look 'in front of' the markers when it's not, especially with some of the more fancy tee markers.
 
Homer has developed an impressive chipping and putting game. I know he's cheating on some level, but I can't work out what he's doing :D
 
i was marking the card of a guy in a work society outing when he said he had found his ball at the base of trees that we had seen sail way over without hitting. i spoke to the other player in the 3 ball and he said just leave it as he was winning the hole anyway , so when he done it again on the back nine i refused to mark his card anylonger as this time he stated his ball had plugged at base of the tree. i said there was no way it was his as he had hit it so high it was well into the woods the other player agreed with me but said let him play on .
he never even noticed that i wasnt marking his card and his opponent (they were in matchplay game)was marking his and my card for the last 7 holes .

i did mention it to the 2 guys running club afterwards and they just called a meeting before the next outing and set out new rules about everyone must mark ball before starting round but never named and shamed or spoke to him seperatley.
 
duncan mackie said:
it's not a silly question at all.

all of the ball has to be in front of a line between the leading edges of the tee markers to be forward of the teeing ground - so it's easy for a ball correctly positioned to look 'in front of' the markers when it's not, especially with some of the more fancy tee markers.
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Cheers for that mate, that has cleared it up for me.
 
HawkeyeMS said:
Homer has developed an impressive chipping and putting game. I know he's cheating on some level, but I can't work out what he's doing :D
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I'll remind you of this in the Volvo as I stick another stone dead to save a hole! Shame the rest of the swing has gone AWOL.

I've pulled a couple of guys up in comps, usually for incorrect relief from staked trees but have explained what was wrong with their actions and let them drop correctly within the rules. Sometimes it is ignorance. No excuse I know but if you've never been told or shown correctly you do what you think is right.

I did pull one guy (no longer at the club) for a leather wedge. He denied it and I was told that as my other partner didn't see it, it was my word against his. No action was taken so I put it in writing to the committee. As usual they stuck their head in the sand and did nothing but I refused to play with him again. It did cause a problem as we were paired together in a club match and the captain was forced into a reshuffle.
 
SocketRocket said:
What's wrong with a rescue club? Are fairway woods and metal headed drivers also cheating?
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No they're Ok....I was only mucking about. I know people get a bit touchy on these threads sometimes and the subject is a serious one.

Never seen anyone cheat, but the level of gamesmanship that I see sometimes is not in the spirit of the the game. When you have driven into the rough and your opponent says "that should be OK" to try and put you off playing a provisional for instance.

One thing that I'm really concious of not doing is saying to people after they hot a good few shots or start with two pars "what did you say your handicap was" or "you play off 22" or "Good drive for a 20 handicapper". I used to hate that when I was improving and people would make this type of comment. It was off putting and unhelpful.
 
brendy said:
No and he denied it afterwards.
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He's not going to admit to doing afterwards is he.

Any blatant cheating needs to be addressed at the time otherwise its your word against his or if you get beat it could be classed as sour grapes.

Teeing up outside the markers is usually accidental rather than gaining an advantage imo.
 
not cheating again but a strange penalty call happened to me in a greensome two years ago, ball hit into a water hazard and if you find it you can play out should you choose as this time it was quite dry, the two blokes go into the hazard where all the grass and moss is and one drops his bag on the ground, his mate goes ballistix and tells him they have just lost the match (we were dormie on the tee) a real set to shouting between the two teammates that it is or isnt a penalty.

anyway after it calmed down apparently by setting his bag down in the hazard it was considered grounding your club in a hazard albeit the clubs didnt touch the grouond and never left the bag.

our team said sod it forget it and we will play on but the partner had basically walked away at this point to leave us all scratching our heads.

im still not sure to this day if that is a penalty and if it is a loss of hole?
 
I came close close to cheating myself, but was saved the embarrassment by my playing partner who saw where my drive landed. Playing a swindle i walked up to a ball just on the edge of the fairway loooked down taylormade with a blue mark and was about to get ready when my partner said your went 20 yards past this point. To cut a long story short it was awayward drive from a group plating down with a ball i had lost the previous day. Mine was 20 yard further on!!
 
joma1108 said:
im still not sure to this day if that is a penalty and if it is a loss of hole?
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Q.What is meant by "test the condition of the hazard" in Rule 13-4a?
A.The term covers all actions by which the player could gain more information about the hazard than could be gained from taking his stance for the stroke to be made, bearing in mind that a certain amount of digging in with the feet in the sand or soil is permitted when taking the stance for a stroke.
Examples of actions that would not constitute testing the condition of the hazard include the following:

· digging in with the feet for a stance, including for a practice swing, anywhere in the hazard or in a similar hazard;
· placing an object, such as clubs or a rake, in the hazard;


They were confusing this with the penalty for grounding your club in the act of playing a shot.
 
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rosecott said:
Q.What is meant by "test the condition of the hazard" in Rule 13-4a?
A.The term covers all actions by which the player could gain more information about the hazard than could be gained from taking his stance for the stroke to be made, bearing in mind that a certain amount of digging in with the feet in the sand or soil is permitted when taking the stance for a stroke.
Examples of actions that would not constitute testing the condition of the hazard include the following:

· digging in with the feet for a stance, including for a practice swing, anywhere in the hazard or in a similar hazard;
· placing an object, such as clubs or a rake, in the hazard;
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So in the instance i described where a stand bag was placed down would this be considered testing the conditions as in my view you would learn more by walking on it,
 
joma1108 said:
So in the instance i described where a stand bag was placed down would this be considered testing the conditions as in my view you would learn more by walking on it,
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No - the decision says it would not be considered testing the conditions.
 
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