Gravel path

[Foxholer]

Now that you have added the new information about OOB, there is 1 other consideration.

If what would be NPoR from the path - into the hedge - puts you OOB, then it is not NPoR - which has to be 'on the course'.

I'm pretty sure that it makes no difference in this case, but worth checking.

 

[DAVEYBOY]

You must play with some bad people. What are you doing playing in a club where 99% are cheats. Name and shame.

Good lord!!! I'm not getting into this. Let's stay on topic.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I've always said I never enter comps to win but to lower my HCP only... I compete against myself. Believe me Phil there are a lot of golfers playing in comps who couldn't give two about breaking rules. Most of us on here are here because we take the game more seriously and most of us on here would be honest players.

How do you know there are a lot of golfers who don't care about breaking rules ?

Never witnessed anyone knowingly break a rule in a comp ?

Making some bold statements about golfers

 

[DAVEYBOY]

If you cannot take full relief then it isn't a point of relief. Standing on the path means you are not taking full relief.

So would point B (red blob) then be the NPOR?

 

[Spuddy]

What happens now? There is no point of relief or is the second line the nearest as it's no closer to the hole orrrr call unplayable orrrr go back to the tee?

there is always a nearest point of relief from a path. Unfortunately this one is in an unplayable lie because of the hedge therefore you need to choose a different option which is (for the umpteenth time) play it as it lies or go back.

I think we've gone round in circles enough so I'm out as well.

 

[DAVEYBOY]

How do you know there are a lot of golfers who don't care about breaking rules ?

Never witnessed anyone knowingly break a rule in a comp ?

Phil some of the rules I've seen twisted and misunderstood in bounce games are shocking. These people I'm sure would do the same in comps. And yes if I was playing the comp with them they wouldn't be doing it.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

So would point B (red blob) then be the NPOR?

Could you stand on the path if the hedge wasn't there - if the answer is yes then it's nearest point of relief


I believe at least four people have told you the answer now but I don't think you want to believe it until someone tells you that it's ok to drop where there red dot is without penalty

 

[DAVEYBOY]

How do you know there are a lot of golfers who don't care about breaking rules ?

Never witnessed anyone knowingly break a rule in a comp ?

Making some bold statements about golfers

You defend the biggest cheat in the world though Phil so not so perfect yourself :thup:

 

[rulefan]

Yes all paths.

Unless the path has been declared to be an Integral Part of The Course by a Local Rule. In which case there is no relief as it is no longer an Immovable Obstruction.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Phil some of the rules I've seen twisted and misunderstood in bounce games are shocking. These people I'm sure would do the same in comps. And yes if I was playing the comp with them they wouldn't be doing it.

Twisted and misunderstood ?! The rules mainly are pretty straightforward

Sorry but so far your statements are way off being correct - nowhere near in fact

 

[DAVEYBOY]

Could you stand on the path if the hedge wasn't there - if the answer is yes then it's nearest point of relief


I believe at least four people have told you the answer now but I don't think you want to believe it until someone tells you that it's ok to drop where there red dot is without penalty

No I asked for future reference... This happened in a nothing game anyway so it doesn't matter. I now have my answer and I'll be able to deal with it if it occurs again.

Thanks for the help I'm out :thup:

 

[Deleted member 15344]

You defend the biggest cheat in the world though Phil so not so perfect yourself :thup:

Defend who ?

 

[DAVEYBOY]

Defend who ?

Suarez... No point in replying as I'm going to do as many others have on the forum, IGNORE YOU!!!

Chowwww

 

[Old Skier]

From the info provided I would make two comments:

Your iPad needs charging
Nearest point of relief would put you in an unplayable position, tough break.

And I presume in the bounce games you are DQing yourself as it appears you are knowingly allowing people to break the rules

 

[DAVEYBOY]

From the info provided I would make two comments:

Your iPad needs charging
Nearest point of relief would put you in an unplayable position, tough break.

And I presume in the bounce games you are DQing yourself as it appears you are knowingly allowing people to break the rules

LOL on charge now :thup:

I don't play for anything against these people so I couldn't care less BUT if it was a comp day there is no chance it would happen.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Suarez... No point in replying as I'm going to do as many others have on the forum, IGNORE YOU!!!

Chowwww

Speechless

 

[Foxholer]

Could you stand on the path if the hedge wasn't there - if the answer is yes then it's nearest point of relief


I believe at least four people have told you the answer now but I don't think you want to believe it until someone tells you that it's ok to drop where there red dot is without penalty

Well, I hope they put it differently to what you have. Because that makes no sense/is wrong!

 

[Old Skier]

I don't play for anything against these people so I couldn't care less BUT if it was a comp day there is no chance it would happen.

This is normally the problem. Those so called cheats may not realise they are breaking the rules and they are playing with people who hav'nt got the confidence or knowledge themselves to point them in the right direction.

 

[DAVEYBOY]

This is normally the problem. Those so called cheats may not realise they are breaking the rules and they are playing with people who hav'nt got the confidence or knowledge themselves to point them in the right direction.

Don't worry I've got the confidence to pull them :thup:

 

[rulefan]

One more question... If its impossible to drop behind the path without standing in the path should that point of relief even be classed as a point of relief. If the drop that was made is the only nearest point of relief available isn't that the nearest point of relief.

See this link to some decisions. http://www.usga.org/Rule-Books/Rules-of-Golf/Decision-24/#d24-2b-3

Read them in sequence. You will see that the Nearest Point of Relief doe not mean that you will be able to play the ball and there is no such thing as the nearest point where you can play the ball. Asyou keep getting told, if the npr is not going to help, you must find another way to solve your problem.The relief you are getting is from the path and only from the path not from the trees. You don't get relief from trees. And then you are not guaranteed that relief from the path will give you a playable shot.