sjw
Well-known member
Just looking at your handicap history in your signature. Great work this year after a couple of tough ones, well done.
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Orikoru
Tour Winner
Cheers! I always had the goal of getting to 12. Getting below that will be a real challenge now. As you probably know, I have to break 80 at my club now just for it to be a counting score.
woofers
Medal Winner
I doubt that it’s enforced anywhere though, anyone on here know of an occasion?One of the most broken rules in golf 5.3a. 2 shot penalty for starting 5 minutes or less before your tee time.
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I guess it’s unenforceable at clubs that don’t have a tee sheet, or booking system, the “old ball in the chute” types.
Add into that, those who do not have a starter (my club, plus every other club I've played at). The time off is just not monitored.
jim8flog
Journeyman Pro
The weather
We have gone from one extreme to another, we could even be going to buggy bans if it stays like this.
Biggest irritation is that we seem to have a period of no rain about 14 hours a day normally late afternoon to early morning.
We have gone from one extreme to another, we could even be going to buggy bans if it stays like this.
Biggest irritation is that we seem to have a period of no rain about 14 hours a day normally late afternoon to early morning.
jim8flog
Journeyman Pro
I do wonder how many read the guide from the R&A - holes should not be placed within 6ft of a severe slope.
I reckon none of the greenkeepers where I play have read it.
Lucifer MorningStar
Well-known member
Based on recent experience I’d argue not many. It’s. It the first time I’ve played pin positions like that and I know it won’t be the last.
chellie
Tour Winner
Our ladies section has done.
sunshine
Well-known member
I think it's good to chuck in a couple of tough pin positions. There are 18 holes so it makes sense to have a range from easy to hard, as long as it is playable.
Surely the 6ft guide has to take account of the speed of the greens.
Lucifer MorningStar
Well-known member
There’s a difference between an easy/hard pin position and one that’s cut on the edge of a false front. Even with a hard pin there is still a chance of making something, pins on false edges leave the players no chance of anything at all and makes a mockery of the game and scores.
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
Tsk Ollie - you should know by now that in normality nobody gets ‘cut’ these days…his handicap was adjusted by the system and yours wasn’tMy mate was off 12.0 before the weekend, and me 12.2. One of my goals is to get lower than him, just for bragging rights really. Both of us shot 80 on our home course at the weekend, but he got cut by 0.1 and I didn't!
Though come to think of it under the old system it was similar, we just talked of ‘cuts’ as if there was more than just a simple algorithm behind it - but maybe handicap secretary ‘cuts’ (for extraordinary scores or winning a comp) were more common.
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
Btw - you are more than capable of a good bit lower than 12…just get a bit more consistent at what you are already good at; and a bit better at what you are notCheers! I always had the goal of getting to 12. Getting below that will be a real challenge now. As you probably know, I have to break 80 at my club now just for it to be a counting score.
D-S
Well-known member
As I said to our Head Greenkeeper once when discussing pins for a big comp "No one has ever walked off the course complaining that the pins were too easy, but one bad/stupid pin position and the whole course is suddenly a joke".
Lucifer MorningStar
Well-known member
I agree nobody moans about easy pins but does that mean if one cut on a false front making it unplayable shouldn’t be moaned about !
D-S
Well-known member
No, of course not - the point was that if you do cut a pin on a false front (and you really shouldn't) then all you will get is grief about everything, so don't do it!
An easy pin is never a bad one.
Lucifer MorningStar
Well-known member
Fair one maybe I misinterpreted your previous post so my apologies on that one. I agree totally and perhaps the greenkeepers should read the rules and speak with the Pros on where to put pins if they’re unsure.
cliveb
Head Pro
In the club championship at my old club a few years back, the pin on a par 3 was put right by the false front. A very few people lucked in to a 3. A mate of mine (handicap 8, so knows how to play) hit the green with his tee shot and walked off with an 8. I personally scored 9. Worst score on the day was 13. Absolutely bonkers.
Lucifer MorningStar
Well-known member
This was the issue we had Sunday in the charity comp, I was up the back of a Par 5 in 2, then 34-40yards short in 3! My chip basically came to rest 2ft max past the pin then off it went for a wander!!
I ended up with a 6 and that’s was the best score on the day during a comp that had several single figure players. The average score was 8 on that hole!
Orikoru
Tour Winner
Was that the 10th? I've heard the stories. Thankfully under the current greenkeeping team we've not had any silly ones in the last four years. They still put a front pin on 10 sometimes but it'll be at least 10 or 12 feet on so you can stop it past the pin, just not short of it.
Some greens there's just nowhere sensible to put it really in summertime - 3rd and 11th for example. Just hope you hit the pin and it drops.
cliveb
Head Pro
It was indeed the 10th. It was the year that Mickelson lost his temper and hit a moving ball on the green - I remember because it was fresh in my mind and I chose to take S&D after my putt slid past the hole and off the green. Twice
We had a mixed match once when the captain apologised to the visitors about the pin on the 3rd. A putt that stopped 1 inch from the hole rolled about 10 feet back down the slope!Some greens there's just nowhere sensible to put it really in summertime - 3rd and 11th for example. Just hope you hit the pin and it drops.
