anotherdouble
Journeyman Pro
He knows that nowðŸ˜
Golf Random Irritations
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It’s one I often see breached in 4ball am-am events, and even worse in Texas scrambles.
Jacko_G
Blackballed
Well I'll back him and agree stupid rule. If the rocket is that desperate to win than he's a trumped up sad git.
Genuinely who on this forum would call that incident out???
anotherdouble
Journeyman Pro
Why is it stupid
Orikoru
Tour Winner
I hadn't even played the shot, but the penalty becomes active as soon as you address the ball. I put my putter behind the ball (was off the green though), and he stopped me and said it was now a two-shot penalty because my partner was in line with the shot. This was semi-final of the matchplay betterball knockout, since you asked.
Personally I found it incredibly harsh, and if the shoe was on the other foot I'd have maybe advised of the rule but let the other team off the penalty. Since it was extremely obvious I wasn't using him to line up my putt, I didn't even know he was there. But if I've learn anything from this forum it's that some people are bigger sticklers for rules than others. On the plus side we didn't actually lose the hole because their other player missed his putt and my partner got the half in bogeys.
Blue in Munich
Crocked Professional Yeti Impersonator
Why not just learn the rules and not put your opponents in a position where they either have to ignore your cheating or call the penalty on you?
Orikoru
Tour Winner
The rule was invented for pros who had their caddies stand behind them to indicate the line, correct? This situation was absolutely nothing like that. I had a discussion with my partner about my shot (allowed in betterball obviously), then he simply walked off and I never gave a second's thought as to where he was standing. In my mind I'm just playing a shot and suddenly I get a two shot penalty having done absolutely nothing wrong. I'm sure you can at least agree that this would be irritating (hence posting it here).
Orikoru
Tour Winner
I didn't break any rules, that's why it was irritating! He was well out of my field of vision, had no clue where he was standing, and I didn't even give it a second's thought since I was concentrating on my shot. Suddenly two shot penalty, I'm out of the hole.
anotherdouble
Journeyman Pro
I would not be irritated by the rule but with my partner
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It’s not a penalty until you play the shot.
You could have walked away, told your partner to move, and then re-start your routine.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
Not what he said. As mentioned I was off the green so I don't know if that makes a difference.
Blue in Munich
Crocked Professional Yeti Impersonator
I didn't break any rules, that's why it was irritating! He was well out of my field of vision, had no clue where he was standing, and I didn't even give it a second's thought since I was concentrating on my shot. Suddenly two shot penalty, I'm out of the hole.
You're in a 4BBB, you're a team, therefore the team is cheating. If you knew the rule then you could have told your partner not to stand there before you addressed the ball, but you didn't. Somehow it's your opponents' fault for knowing the rule, not yours for not knowing it & consequently breaking it.
anotherdouble
Journeyman Pro
That is obvious as you are not a pro and did not have a caddy BUT you had a partner. Pros have been penalised for their caddy’s indiscretions out of field of vision and you for your partner
chrisd
Major Champion
I believe it's as soon as you start to take your stance
Orikoru
Tour Winner
I've heard of the rule, but I never gave it a second's thought, as I said he was out of my field of vision. I'd be shocked if many people in that position, while focusing on their shot, remembered to check behind him just in case their partner was standing in the wrong place.
Edit: Also I've not said it's their fault as such. This is the irritations thread, I'm just irritated at getting a penalty for such an obscure reason that's all. Or irritated by the rule itself. Whatever.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
Yeah.
Blue in Munich
Crocked Professional Yeti Impersonator
I've heard of the rule, but I never gave it a second's thought, as I said he was out of my field of vision. I'd be shocked if many people in that position, while focusing on their shot, remembered to check behind him just in case their partner was standing in the wrong place.
Edit: Also I've not said it's their fault as such. This is the irritations thread, I'm just irritated at getting a penalty for such an obscure reason that's all. Or irritated by the rule itself. Whatever.
If it's such an irritation have you thought of having a partner who knows the rules, thus avoiding the issue?
Orikoru
Tour Winner
I didn't blame him really, he just stood back well out of the way so I could putt. If he'd have been what, one foot to the right of where he was it would have been fine?? Or a yard? I think it's harsh to call a penalty on that basis, there is no chance whatsoever he was helping me line up the shot, he just happened to be standing there.
Have you never once experienced or witnessed a penalty that you thought was a touch harsh? Or you expect everybody to be able to recite every rule for every situation parrot-fashion?
cliveb
Head Pro
+1
There seem to be two types of rules sticklers:
1. The kind who advise you that you're about to break a rule (no problem with them).
2. The kind who deliberately watch you break a rule and then advise you of the penalty. These are despicable people who have no place on a golf course.
Usually the same people are the on course sock police and the first to moan if a cap is seen in the clubhouse. Normally car park shoe changers and make a cup of tea or half a bitter last two hours while moaning about the state of the course and the club
