Golf Random Irritations

[Orikoru]

The only point that I would add to slightly differentiate between the 2 is that it is perfectly possible to dislike something clothing wise and read nothing more into that. It is when that dislike extends to 'people should note be allowed to wear them' that it gets a bit deeper and you need to look at the reasoning behind the desire to ban an item.

That is essentially what I meant and I was mainly referring to the current hoodie debate.

 

[NeilG]

I actually joined this site and abandoned some golf sites here in the US because people didn't seem to argue with each other. So much for that.

The only reason I visit is for the arguments. Excellent entertainment.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Watching a flood of pictures on social media from our captain and 11 others enjoying golf in the sun in Cyprus while it pours down here.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

But if you manufacture a shot and it goes wrong, arguably you should have played a different shot which was easier to play. So it is still an unforced error.

OK - so it's an unforced forced error

I'm thinking of simple things such as having to play my ball from a hanging or downhill fairway lie due to a misplaced tee shot. I am forced to manufacture a shot. When I am on the flat I don't have any such 'excuse'. I can let myself off with messing up the former - but I am just too good at messing up from the level.

 

[SteveW86]

I actually joined this site and abandoned some golf sites here in the US because people didn't seem to argue with each other. So much for that.

I first read this as you left the other forums as there was no arguing and that was a bit boring.

 

[sunshine]

OK - so it's an unforced forced error

I'm thinking of simple things such as having to play my ball from a hanging or downhill fairway lie due to a misplaced tee shot. I am forced to manufacture a shot. When I am on the flat I don't have any such 'excuse'. I can let myself off with messing up the former - but I am just too good at messing up from the level.

I guess you're saying that an unforced error is messing up a shot you expect to pull off? But if you're trying a tough shot it's a forced error? But the way I think about it, if you're trying to pull off a tough shot where you're forced to manufacture a shot then maybe it's an unforced strategy error?

Let's say your tee shot on a par five finishes on a hanging downhill lie.
1. You could reach the green with a 3 wood but the chance of executing the shot is minimal. Choosing this strategy is an unforced error - poor course management.
2. You could punch a three quarter 5 iron which is a much easier shot to execute. However, if you messed this up it still would still be an unforced error... because there is an easier option!
3. You could hit a wedge second shot - much lower tariff, high chance of success - but messing this up is still an unforced error.

I suppose golf is just a series of unforced errors, with the occasional winner thrown in to keep us coming back for more

 

[ScienceBoy]

I suppose golf is just a series of unforced errors, with the occasional winner thrown in to keep us coming back for more

I think of it as a your golf score is a result of how good your bad shots are, make your bad shots better and your score will improve. You can also apply this to your decisions and gameplan, make the bad bits better and your score will improve. Making your good shots better has only marginal improvements for most golfers, until you need marginal gains!

 

[Hoganman1]

I first read this as you left the other forums as there was no arguing and that was a bit boring.

Hah, I guess you could read it that way.

 

[SteveW86]

Booking my next lesson and the earliest date is 13th November.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Booking my next lesson and the earliest date is 13th November.

How come. Is it die to the popularity and reputation of the pro?

 

[SteveW86]

How come. Is it die to the popularity and reputation of the pro?

It certainly is. As much as it would be easy to go and try someone else we have a good relationship and he explains things in a way I understand.

It is only a slight irritation though as my last lesson was on Friday last week so in reality 1 a month is probably about right as I need time to bed in the changes. I would have liked a short game lesson in a couple of weeks though as that is the weak area at the minute

 

[Blue in Munich]

The point is, if you were someone who objects to the clothes someone else is wearing and you think it's fine because it's just an opinion, maybe you should look at what that opinion is based upon - chances are, it is snobbery. (Granted this is only if clothing is what you were originally talking about.)

What gives you the right to assume that because someone objects to or has a dislike of a particular piece of clothing, their opinion is based on snobbery?

 

[HomerJSimpson]

It certainly is. As much as it would be easy to go and try someone else we have a good relationship and he explains things in a way I understand.

It is only a slight irritation though as my last lesson was on Friday last week so in reality 1 a month is probably about right as I need time to bed in the changes. I would have liked a short game lesson in a couple of weeks though as that is the weak area at the minute

Short game in winter is always tough in winter. Bare lies, muddy lies, balls sitting down in the rough. If you can get a good technique that works on winter lies then it should carry you over into the warmer and better summer lies

 

[SteveW86]

Short game in winter is always tough in winter. Bare lies, muddy lies, balls sitting down in the rough. If you can get a good technique that works on winter lies then it should carry you over into the warmer and better summer lies

True, but the range mat always has a consistent lie and that’s all I really need to develop the technique

 

[Orikoru]

What gives you the right to assume that because someone objects to or has a dislike of a particular piece of clothing, their opinion is based on snobbery?

I rather liked PaulJames87s post on it here so I'll leave it at that. Obviously this is specifically at people who say things like 'hoods don't belong on the golf course' etc.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

True, but the range mat always has a consistent lie and that’s all I really need to develop the technique

Yes and no. Nothing beats learning to play shots from tricky lies around the green and replicating real shots. I've been hitting off the muddiest or barest lies I can find to develop something that works. Plenty of duffs and thins at the moment but gradually working out what I can and can't do off these lies

 

[Blue in Munich]

I rather liked PaulJames87s post on it here so I'll leave it at that. Obviously this is specifically at people who say things like 'hoods don't belong on the golf course' etc.

So no answer then?

 

[Orikoru]

So no answer then?

It's answered by his post, I think he put it better than I could and I'd only be regurgitating what he said.

 

[williamalex1]

The state of my body, last season a write off due to dodgy back, this season just starting to show some form and then hurt my back at the beginning of August and have given up on comp golf since then as I'm sick of not been able to turn back onto my left side, flipping it left with the hands and running up a stableford adj score of over 90 or more.

When WHS comes out my handicap is not going to be a reflection on my current form more of a reflection on the health of my back.

Very frustrated to say the least.

I could've posted that

 

[Blue in Munich]

It's answered by his post, I think he put it better than I could and I'd only be regurgitating what he said.

Except it isn't.