Backache
Assistant Pro
If asked I will attend the flag with good grace , but if someone is wanting it tended for the majority of putts as a few are suggesting some do it's hard to see that it would not impact a little on speed.
Arthur Wedge
Well-known member
I prefer to have the flag out when I’m putting
But there will be instances where it may help pace of play or someone is being awkward etc
Arthur Wedge
Well-known member
I think there will always be the single odd case that someone will be awkward regardless of what someone wants to do with the pin tbh
D
Deleted member 35927
Guest
Yeah I'm asking why you like it out .
Arthur Wedge
Well-known member
Because that’s how I prefer it
Don’t want the flag in the hole filling it when the ball is going towards the hole
Bratty
Princess Pouty (Queen of Fish Lips)
I prefer the flag out when putting pretty much from any length. It plays with my mind too much left in.
Plus, I find it much, much easier to read the line from behind the hole with the flag out.
However, at times, if I trust the line, for putts over 25 foot I may occasionally ask for it to be attended. I've had too many from that distance hit and stay out.
That's just me though. In, out or attended, whatever people want is fine for me.
Bratty
Princess Pouty (Queen of Fish Lips)
But it's not unnecessary if that's how I would like to play my golf (see above post).
As for a massive waste of time, it won't be on every putt, so shouldn't be a problem.
And no matter how much you will want to argue this, you will not change my mind, so feel free to not bother trying.
sjw
Well-known member
At 10 feet? That doesn't seem like much at all. I was imagining maybe 50 feet when a slope means the hole isn't obvious. Can't see what you gain from 10 feet
D
Deleted member 35927
Guest
Of course it's unnecessary. There's no longer a penalty for hitting the flag And it's a waste of time. That's the reasoning behind the rule change, that's the usga saying that, not me.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
You hit them too hard.
Bratty
Princess Pouty (Queen of Fish Lips)
They drop if the flag's out.You hit them too hard.
Bratty
Princess Pouty (Queen of Fish Lips)
Read my post above the one quoted (as I pointed out) and you'll see that for me, sometimes, I believe it's necessary for me and my requirements.
You don't want to attend it for me, that's okay, but we're unlikely to play together again.
As for rule change, it just says no penalty, not no attending.
So I'll carry on, thanks.
D
Deleted member 35927
Guest
Chances of holing a 25 footer are prettying slim, especially for an am.You hit them too hard.
Bratty
Princess Pouty (Queen of Fish Lips)
Even slimmer if the flags in, but I aim to hole it every time, so I'll carry on doing me.
D
Deleted member 35927
Guest
Where did anyone say they won't do it? It's specifically mentions pace of play as the driver for change , you cant say no to attending as there are genuine reasons for it.
KenL
Tour Rookie
Haven’t studies shown that this in not necessarily the case?
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Deleted member 35927
Guest
Yes, and TBF once you get beyond 10 feet your chances of holing a putt drop rapidly , to a point where your more likely to 3 putt.
Bratty
Princess Pouty (Queen of Fish Lips)
Yes, but other studies have shown it is the case. There's evidence for both sides apparently.
Arthur Wedge
Well-known member
There are multiple studies with no definitive
I have seen putts hit the flag and bounce out that imo would have gone in
You are trying to get the ball into a small hole - putting something in the hole reduces the size of that hole
Flagstick Out!: The science behind why the flagstick should be pulled 99.9 percent of the time
If only Davis Thompson has seen this Ph.D. Research before seeing his birdie putt on the 71st hole of the 2023 American Express clang off the flagstick
www.golfdigest.com
Mandofred
Well-known member
I'm waiting for someone to be talked into changing their minds on......well, anything.
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