palindromicbob
Tour Winner
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EU Referendum
- Thread starter Doon frae Troon
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SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
Why do you think I don't 'get it'? You and I absolutely get it, but many don't.
So for instance does your figure of 50,000 PA include non-EU immigration?
If it does then the Leave campaign needs to fess up to the existing non-EU immigrant community that leaving is not going to result in the increase in non-EU immigration that many expect - and indeed that non-EU immigration will be cut significantly.
Hacker Khan
Yurt Dwelling, Yoghurt Knitter
Really? You're surprised a yoghurt knitting yurt dwelling liberal lefty like myself would post an editorial from The Guardian? I'd of thought it is the most depressingly predictable thing I could do.
As for the rest, what Hobbit said, he was spot on.
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MegaSteve
Tour Winner
With an economy only based on 'intangibles' I feel a recession is only ever one small hiccup away...
Hacker Khan
Yurt Dwelling, Yoghurt Knitter
Warning, warning, more contemptible left wing 'stay in' propaganda. Please do not enlarge the image if you are easily offended.
Ahaaaa
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Hacker Khan
Yurt Dwelling, Yoghurt Knitter
Mmm, I wonder what The Express editorial will say about how to vote on Thursday....
palindromicbob
Tour Winner
SocketRocket
Ryder Cup Winner
It may have been OK for me if he used the editorial link to support some kind of view or belief he had stated but he just simply posted the link with no comment. I found the Editorial in poor taste as it referred to the death of Joe Cox a number of times and seemed to link it with Nigel Farage who the writer seemed to be almost paranoid about in her vitriolic outpouring of insults. As HK had made no comment I can only think he supported the article which for me was in very bad taste.
Thats the reason for my post which you are of course at will to disagree with but at least I have explained my view.
SocketRocket
Ryder Cup Winner
I have explained why I found it contemptible and in poor taste.
SocketRocket
Ryder Cup Winner
Warning, warning, more contemptible left wing 'stay in' propaganda. Please do not enlarge the image if you are easily offended.
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Grow up!
Eventually.
You are just as guilty as HK in posting something which, in your own explanation above, you failed to qualify in your original response. You can't have it both ways...
Hacker Khan
Yurt Dwelling, Yoghurt Knitter
I did give you fair warning. Monkey tennis?
Hacker Khan
Yurt Dwelling, Yoghurt Knitter
Still not sure why I was not supposed to post it? Unless we have reached the stage where a Guardian editorial is viewed as offensive and likely to corrupt and we should not link to such a paper???
If so, then whatever upsets people is all relative. I could have reworded it and passed it off as my own original thoughts like most people do on forums. But I thought I'd let the journalist speak for themselves, and I am sure most people could have worked out I agreed with it as I linked to it. That's usually how linking to articles work.
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Hacker Khan
Yurt Dwelling, Yoghurt Knitter
To even matters up, as I posted an editorial from a lefty rag here's one from a righty rag, The Times, who are backing the remain option. My name's Hacker Khan and I endorse this ad.
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SocketRocket
Ryder Cup Winner
Fair Comment.
Foxholer
Blackballed
Totally agree!
There is nothing in that editorial that is inappropriate, for an editorial, imo!
Btw. Farage's experience of Mandela's release were identical to mine, though I can't say the same about his comment on smoking (it was a pretty good reply though
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I wonder how many voters have changed their mind in the last few months? I've gone from Out to on the fence with me edging towards in.
Immigration isn't a major factor for me apart from having the infrastructure to support it. The Beeb did a great piece several weeks ago about how being out, but part of the trading bloc would mean nothing would change at all in terms of immigration.
I have two big gripes with the EU. France and its skewed contributions, and skewed access to goods from outside the EU. Some are ridiculously cheap, for example steel, which has severely damaged the UK. Whilst others have ridiculously high tariffs that hurt consumers.
I feel that the laws, in or out, will be pretty much the same. If they're not, we won't be allowed to trade - the same already applies to exports to the US.
Immigration isn't a major factor for me apart from having the infrastructure to support it. The Beeb did a great piece several weeks ago about how being out, but part of the trading bloc would mean nothing would change at all in terms of immigration.
I have two big gripes with the EU. France and its skewed contributions, and skewed access to goods from outside the EU. Some are ridiculously cheap, for example steel, which has severely damaged the UK. Whilst others have ridiculously high tariffs that hurt consumers.
I feel that the laws, in or out, will be pretty much the same. If they're not, we won't be allowed to trade - the same already applies to exports to the US.
MarkE
Challenge Tour Pro
There's the rub. Immigration dos'nt affect large swathes of the country so people in that situation are ambivalent towards it. Whereas it's a major issue and it's having a major detrimental effect on life where immigration is centered.
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
Too true, I get fed up with the Britains Full, concrete jungle brigade.
Distribution to the UK's population, wealth and access is the problem.
Successive governments have done diddly squat about it.
Foxholer
Blackballed
You missed this rather important bit out of your quote!
So your actual point bears little or no relationship to the quote!
