EU Referendum

[Old Skier]

So Cameron wanted to stick to the EU Procurement rules and gets slated for it, some EU country realize that sticking to the rules will affect their steel industry so now want to change the rules.

Seems that the rules need changing rather than started ad hoc sanctions on country's that take advantage.

 

[FairwayDodger]

I have come across the following website which looks like it provides a lot of good information about the EU and the referendum. Some of you might find it interesting.

http://ukandeu.ac.uk/

I haven't had time to digest much of it so can't comment on the veracity of this, however they claim:

The UK in a Changing Europe Initiative promotes rigorous, high-quality and independent research into the complex and ever changing relationship between the UK and the European Union (EU).

It provides an authoritative, non-partisan and impartial reference point for those looking for information, insights and analysis about UK-EU relations that stands aside from the politics surrounding the debate.

The Initiative’s work is tailored to be easily accessible to policy makers, businesses, journalists, civil society organisations, educational institutions and the general public who are interested in the UK’s relationship with the EU.

Funded by the Economic and Social Research Council (ESRC), and based at King’s College London, the Initiative will explore the key aspects of UK and EU dynamics, including:

* Impact of EU policies: how EU policies make a difference in areas such as, the single market, financial regulation, trade, investment, growth and the free movement of people
* Attitudes towards the EU: social and political attitudes, the nature of euroscepticism, generational differences, the media’s role
* A Changing UK in a Changing EU: differences in public opinion in England, Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales; implications of constitutional changes in the UK and implications of British exit for different parts of the UK.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Hahahaha.... Really?! It's market forces Doon. If any company wants the best, they have to pay the best... Two or three companies my ..... I'm in the middle of recruiting, interviews Tuesday if you're free, and I know exactly what the going rate is up here compared to the recruiting I've done in Manchester, Birmingham, Dublin and London for engineers, admin staff and managers.

You're miles off on this one Doon.

The discussion was about the minimum wage.
Not much to do with market forces in London, where I am told that 20% of under 21 year olds are unemployed.

I see eeny and meeny jumped onto your same error......no change there then.

 

[SocketRocket]

The discussion was about the minimum wage.
Not much to do with market forces in London, where I am told that 20% of under 21 year olds are unemployed.

I see eeny and meeny jumped onto your same error......no change there then.

Youth unemployment in the UK is around 13% down from 16% a year ago. Who told you it was 20%?

 

[Hobbit]

The discussion was about the minimum wage.
Not much to do with market forces in London, where I am told that 20% of under 21 year olds are unemployed.

I see eeny and meeny jumped onto your same error......no change there then.

Is that the best you can come up with? Your post was, at best, superficial. Why don't you ave a look at the second most expensive city to live in in the UK, Aberdeen, and research the wages paid there.

As usual, you've made yourself look like a right Richard with your biased, England 'v' Scotland, bile.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Youth unemployment in the UK is around 13% down from 16% a year ago. Who told you it was 20%?

I read a report in the Telegraph

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Is that the best you can come up with? Your post was, at best, superficial. Why don't you ave a look at the second most expensive city to live in in the UK, Aberdeen, and research the wages paid there.

As usual, you've made yourself look like a right Richard with your biased, England 'v' Scotland, bile.

Lose the argument so add insults, disappointed in you.

The commercial argument for a higher compulsory minimum wage in London fails when you see their young unemployed levels.
Market forces excuse does not apply.

 

[Del_Boy]

I read a report in the Telegraph

http://www.londonspovertyprofile.or...klessness/young-adult-unemployment-over-time/

here it it says youth unemployment is the same in London and the rest of the U.K. Who is right?

 

[SocketRocket]

I read a report in the Telegraph

Please can you show some evidence that backs that up as I cant find anything that supports that figure.

If you want to see some shocking youth unemployment statistics then take a look at other EU countries, many of them have eye watering rates. Not a great reason to stay in the EU crazy club.

 

[Foxholer]

Current/Short term situation should not be a consideration for this issue!

UK's economy has traditionally been quicker to 'react' (in whichever direction) to world events/economy/sentiment! This sort of phenomenon is unlikely to change irrespective of whether UK is in or out of the EU.

Likewise, statistics about other countries are somewhat irrelevant if they are within 'traditional' range for the particular country - as the 'culture' of the particular country is unique to that country. Of course, there are limits to what is 'sensible'. But (and it's a 'failing' of EU imo - though there's no simple solution) most EU countries, including UK, have breached, and pretty much ignored the breach, those limits.

 

[Fish]

 

[Fish]

Corbyns losing the plot, or just confirming to us he lost it ages ago..

http://capx.co/corbyns-contorted-case-for-remain/

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Youth unemployment in the UK is around 13% down from 16% a year ago. Who told you it was 20%?

So why do we need a load of immigrants to fill the lower paid jobs? Are these jobs below British citizens?

 

[SocketRocket]

So why do we need a load of immigrants to fill the lower paid jobs? Are these jobs below British citizens?

They think they are but a policy of 'Work' if you are capable or get nothing would soon sort it out. A bit like the policy in the countries most immigrants come from.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

And so following hot on the heels of President Obama and the IMF - we have the latest members of the 'to be ignored' Scaremongering Club - the French Minister of the Economy, Industry and Digital Affairs and The Treasury telling us the difference between staying and leaving. But what do they know...

Ah - but Chris Graying tells that everything will be fine because Avon Cosmetics are moving their World HQ to the UK (well they are closing down in the US so they've got to go somewhere - and will they still come here if we leave?). Now this has been known for a month - so was CG just keeping it up his sleeve as a 'trump' card to be played against the IMF and the Treasury. Well he's played it now.

 

[jp5]

The Treasury telling us the difference between staying and leaving. But what do they know...

The bizarre thing is that just a couple of months ago, we were told that the Government was prepared to recommend to leave if the negotiated deal was not sufficient.

By anyone's account the negotiation didn't achieve much, and now the same Government is professing what a disaster it would be if we were to leave.

Something doesn't add up...

 

[ger147]

The bizarre thing is that just a couple of months ago, we were told that the Government was prepared to recommend to leave if the negotiated deal was not sufficient.

By anyone's account the negotiation didn't achieve much, and now the same Government is professing what a disaster it would be if we were to leave.

Something doesn't add up...

Nothing adds up at the Treasury...

 

[philly169]

There does seem to be a desperate plea by the Government to stay in the EU, maybe there is a swing to leave.

IMO, the likelihood is we vote to leave, then EU then offers better terms, we stay in.

 

[jp5]

Nothing adds up at the Treasury...

Very good

It's a little ridiculous how Osborne's team can predict next decade's GDP when they can't even hit their own predictions year on year!

Also very disingenuous to express the change in GDP in terms of household costs.

 

[jp5]

IMO, the likelihood is we vote to leave, then EU then offers better terms, we stay in.

I can't see it personally. Think whatever the result, that will be it.