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I don't believe that membership of the EU (or EEC before it) is related to the decline of the 'power' (aka 'influence') of UK, merely coincident recent events. And yes, all those periods. I'm not overly concerned as to whether a country has particular power/influence, simply noting the changes and reflecting on whether particular decisions would alter that power/influence, so it matters little as to whether I am 'one of us' or not - except perhaps my 'independence' may (or may not) have give me a less narrow-minded view!

But you keep rattling on about how we would lose power out of the EU, how does that work? We are one of 28 when 'In' and are regulated on many issues as a voice among many, a voice that is vastly outnumbered on many issues.

We are a permanent member of the UN Security Council, A G8 member, The 5th largest economy in the World, One of the main members of Nato, a Nation with a great trading history and so on and so forth. What kind of additional 'Power' is it you expect from us? Whinging Poms are nothing on you, maybe it's time to stop biting the hand that feeds you or if you really do have such a low opinion of this fantastic country then move on to pastures new. :rolleyes:
 

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Whinging Poms are nothing on you, maybe it's time to stop biting the hand that feeds you or if you really do have such a low opinion of this fantastic country then move on to pastures new. :rolleyes:

I've lived here most of my adult (certainly working) life! And I don't believe I'm whingeing at all - simply responding to your points. This statement really is beneath contempt! The earlier one is simply blinkered!
 

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I've lived here most of my adult (certainly working) life! And I don't believe I'm whingeing at all - simply responding to your points. This statement really is beneath contempt! The earlier one is simply blinkered!

You keep knocking on about how the UK is not what it was and has lost power and influence in the World, you suggest we will be even worse if we exit the EU but seem light on explaining why. You also have this strange habit of stalking my every post on whatever subject. Bit odd really!
 

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I also noticed in the news that an SNP member is standing for London Mayor.

I've suggested to a local Tory cooncillor I am acquainted with that if DC decides to stand down on a Brexit then he should suggest to Scottish Tory leadership that wee RuthieD should put herself forward as leader of the TP - to me she's a lot more acceptable than the Tory alternatives (never mind the frankly unbelievable BoJo).

As it happens, and despite my left of centre views, I hope DC does not stand down as PM if a Brexit is what happens - IMO better to have him in charge of the ensuing chaos than the alternatives - except feisty Ruthie that is...
 

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I've suggested to a local Tory cooncillor I am acquainted with that if DC decides to stand down on a Brexit then he should suggest to Scottish Tory leadership that wee RuthieD should put herself forward as leader of the TP - to me she's a lot more acceptable than the Tory alternatives (never mind the frankly unbelievable BoJo).

As it happens, and despite my left of centre views, I hope DC does not stand down as PM if a Brexit is what happens - IMO better to have him in charge of the ensuing chaos than the alternatives - except feisty Ruthie that is...

Ruthie is OK but gets slaughtered by Sturgeon at FMQT.
She is trying to defend the indefensible[ie UK Tory policy]so is in a bit of a no win situation.
Under pressure she occasionally lets the red mist rise and loses the plot.

She is still a much better candidate for UK Tory leader than any of those amateurs south of Preston.
 

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I heard David Cameron on the radio yesterday saying that we needed to be in the EU to solve problems like those facing the British steel industry. And now it turns out that we were one of 14 countries that blocked an EU plan to impose higher tariffs on Chinese imports. The man is a clown, and that's coming from someone who voted Tory at the last election.
 

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I heard David Cameron on the radio yesterday saying that we needed to be in the EU to solve problems like those facing the British steel industry. And now it turns out that we were one of 14 countries that blocked an EU plan to impose higher tariffs on Chinese imports. The man is a clown, and that's coming from someone who voted Tory at the last election.

I guess I will always be a Tory but I have started to despise Cameron.
 

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That would be the London where someone doing exactly the same job as someone else in the rUK is awarded a higher hourly minimum wage rate.

I can't possibly comment on the weighting allowance paid to our employees in Aberdeen... Sorry Doon but that chip on your shoulder just fell off...
 

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Two or three companies in Aberdeen against tens of thousands in London, sound argument :confused:

Hahahaha.... Really?! It's market forces Doon. If any company wants the best, they have to pay the best... Two or three companies my ..... I'm in the middle of recruiting, interviews Tuesday if you're free, and I know exactly what the going rate is up here compared to the recruiting I've done in Manchester, Birmingham, Dublin and London for engineers, admin staff and managers.

You're miles off on this one Doon.
 
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I can't possibly comment on the weighting allowance paid to our employees in Aberdeen... Sorry Doon but that chip on your shoulder just fell off...

That's a bit unfair - think he is balanced


Chip on both shoulders
 
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