EU Referendum

[Deleted Member 1156]

What EU red tape?

in the electronics world we call them standards. All nations have standards, even independent ones. In the EU those standards have been harmonised so we can all trade freely. It's brilliant. The best thing about the EU is the harmonised standards.

If we left the EU, what is preventing your company from carrying on manufacturing to those same standards?

 

[delc]

Which may be true but surely that has zilch to do with immigration.

Yes it does, because immigrants are taking the jobs that our young people could do!

 

[Doon frae Troon]

What EU red tape?

in the electronics world we call them standards. All nations have standards, even independent ones. In the EU those standards have been harmonised so we can all trade freely. It's brilliant. The best thing about the EU is the harmonised standards.

I think that would be the special imaginary Daily Fail red tape, only certain people can see it.

I see they are advertising for somebody to speak for England........priceless replies:lol:

 

[delc]

I blame UBER myself and the folk that use their service because using the public mass transport system is beneath them...

But, each to their own...

UBER? The trains, tubes and buses into and around London are also pretty packed in the rush hour! Many more people seem to be commuting by bicycle. The UK has about the same population as France and Germany, but only about a quarter of the land mass, not all of which is habitable. England's green and pleasant land is slowly being covered by urban sprawl, particularly in the South-East, often with little thought about the necessary infrastructure, e.g. Roads, water supplies and drainage, schools, hospitals and doctors surgeries!

 

[SocketRocket]

I think that would be the special imaginary Daily Fail red tape, only certain people can see it.

I see they are advertising for somebody to speak for England........priceless replies:lol:

Seems like you read it as you are well informed on their editorial.

 

[SocketRocket]

What EU red tape?

in the electronics world we call them standards. All nations have standards, even independent ones. In the EU those standards have been harmonised so we can all trade freely. It's brilliant. The best thing about the EU is the harmonised standards.

Standards! We don't even use the same plugs

Yes, EU Red Tape. You know it's Red and made of Tape. Don't take my word that it exists, how about the 18 EU major Countries that are trying to get it reduced. Read this : https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-and-18-other-eu-countries-call-for-business-red-tape-reduction

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Seems like you read it as you are well informed on their editorial.

The Daily Fail, you have to be joking.
I did have a really good laugh at some of the on line/twitter replies to the headline though, quite made my day.

 

[SocketRocket]

The Daily Fail, you have to be joking.
I did have a really good laugh at some of the on line/twitter replies to the headline though, quite made my day.

So you don't really know what they said, only what someone down the Pub said.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

What EU red tape?

in the electronics world we call them standards. All nations have standards, even independent ones. In the EU those standards have been harmonised so we can all trade freely. It's brilliant. The best thing about the EU is the harmonised standards.

And that harmonisation is complemented and enhanced by the fact that - as the boss of GSK said - it is in the context of regulatory certainty and predictability.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

If we left the EU, what is preventing your company from carrying on manufacturing to those same standards?

Nothing - except being outside of the EU you would have no way of influencing these standards - you would just have to adhere to whatever the EU determined for these standards - and these might not best suit the interests or capabilities of UK industry.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/artic...-mail-editorial-asking-whowillspeakforengland

So you don't really know what they said, only what someone down the Pub said.

Sorry but 'good taste' bars me from showing the Scottish ones.

 

[SocketRocket]

Because the world has changed and the pressures on Europe have changed. And in the same way that some see it as our 'duty' to join with the US, France and the coalition countries in fighting Daesh/ISIS - I see it that we have a duty to work with all other European countries to manage the migration from the Middle east and elsewhere. After all do these other European countries not also have 'benefits of life' that they and their forefathers have worked for? Of course they do. We are no different but many of us like to think that we are.

We are working to help the displaced people in the middle east and in a far more sensible way than most European Countries. We are helping in the region, not encouraging this uncontrolled migration across Europe.

You didn't answer my question when I asked you what you think we should do on immigration in the UK. Open borders or something else? I'm interested to hear your answer.

 

[Hobbit]

Nothing - except being outside of the EU you would have no way of influencing these standards - you would just have to adhere to whatever the EU determined for these standards - and these might not best suit the interests or capabilities of UK industry.

We already manufacture to some standards outside the EU. Try getting any product into the U.S. That isn't up to there standard. And try getting something into the EU that isn't to their standards.

 

[Ethan]

UBER? The trains, tubes and buses into and around London are also pretty packed in the rush hour! Many more people seem to be commuting by bicycle. The UK has about the same population as France and Germany, but only about a quarter of the land mass, not all of which is habitable. England's green and pleasant land is slowly being covered by urban sprawl, particularly in the South-East, often with little thought about the necessary infrastructure, e.g. Roads, water supplies and drainage, schools, hospitals and doctors surgeries!

Really?:

UK has a pop of 62.26m, and a pop density of 256/sq km
France has a pop of 63.6m and a pop density of 111
Germany has a pop of 81.7m and a pop density of 233
Netherlands has a pop of 16.9m and a pop density of 383


2013 figures for the UK. Germany probably closer by now. UK has a shade over 2/3 of the land mass of Germany. Some of Germany is uninhabitable too.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Loved today's headline and front page comment in the Daily Mail

Who WILL speak for England

Stuff rUK!

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Yes it does, because immigrants are taking the jobs that our young people could do!

Immigrants aren't going to be any better qualified - unless of course our young people you refer to couldn't be bothered to apply. That's hardly the immigrant's fault

 

[delc]

Really?:

UK has a pop of 62.26m, and a pop density of 256/sq km
France has a pop of 63.6m and a pop density of 111
Germany has a pop of 81.7m and a pop density of 233
Netherlands has a pop of 16.9m and a pop density of 383


2013 figures for the UK. Germany probably closer by now. UK has a shade over 2/3 of the land mass of Germany. Some of Germany is uninhabitable too.

UK 243,610 km2, population 65 mn.

England 130,395 km2, pop 53.5 mn.

Germany 357,031 km2, pop 81 mn

France 643,802 km3, pop 66 mn

It can be seen that England (where I live) has a much higher population density than Germany or France!

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

UK 243,610 km2, population 65 mn.

England 130,395 km2, population 53.5 mn.

Germany 357,031 km2, pop 81 mn

France 643,802 km3, pop 66 mn

It can be seen that England (where I live) has a much higher population than Germany or France!

Must go check the pop density of the Ruhr valley and Paris Urban Region

 

[SocketRocket]

Really?:

UK has a pop of 62.26m, and a pop density of 256/sq km
France has a pop of 63.6m and a pop density of 111
Germany has a pop of 81.7m and a pop density of 233
Netherlands has a pop of 16.9m and a pop density of 383


2013 figures for the UK. Germany probably closer by now. UK has a shade over 2/3 of the land mass of Germany. Some of Germany is uninhabitable too.

Thats correct for the UK but when you look at England it's a different story. England has a population density of 395 people per square kilometre and is now the highest populated major country in Europe, already almost double the level in Germany and quadruple that in France. It is estimated that English population density will rise to 464 people for every square kilometre by 2031. Only little Malta has a higher population density but with only 400,000 people.

The UK numbers get masked by Scotland and Wales with their large unpopulated areas.

 

[Ethan]

UK 243,610 km2, population 65 mn.

England 130,395 km2, pop 53.5 mn.

Germany 357,031 km2, pop 81 mn

France 643,802 km3, pop 66 mn

It can be seen that England (where I live) has a much higher population than Germany or France!

Check the message you posted which I quoted and remind me whether you said England or the UK.