CheltenhamHacker
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Does anyone think that we would actually leave the EU, even if "Leave" wins? Or that DC would use this as more of a bartering tool?
EU Referendum
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MegaSteve
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Still believe [and have indicated previously on this thread] that DC is looking for a vote that will allow him to go back to the EU in Oliver Twist style...
The Article 50 clearly says no second vote, but in all honesty I think the EU would come back to the UK with revised terms rather than lose the UK's contribution. A bit of brinksmanship but I'd rather vote out and see what they come back with...
As I've previously stated, I'd welcome the original Common Market organisation without all the federalism and subsequent regulations and laws that have been imposed.
Ethan
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He is taking a huge gamble. If he loses, there will be an uprising of the Brexit wing of the Tories under Boris and they will force Cameron (and Gideon) out, possibly even at the point of a no confidence vote. I think Cameron has overplayed his hand.
Doon frae Troon
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No, It is a once in a lifetime opportunity to totally mess up the UK.
I think the other EU countries see the UK as a bit of a side show, a bit like the drunken uncle at a wedding
If Italy said they would pull out would the majority of the UK be 'boffered'.
MegaSteve
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Yes, it is a gamble on his part...
But, I am fairly confident he personally has a huge safety net to fall into...
MegaSteve
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Ummm... I think you'll find much of Europe is looking on, with interest, as to the outcome of this "side show"...
Ethan
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Financially, sure, and that post-PM gravy train will start rolling, but he wants to keep political power for a while, political legacies and all that.
PhilTheFragger
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Wonder what the Job Security rating of a UK MEP or UK Brussels bureaucrat is like this morning?
Ethan
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I don't think UK and Italy are comparable. Italy is still something of a basket case, and is always financially and politically unstable. Many in the EU would be relieved to be shot of Italy not to mention Portugal, Spain and Greece. The UK is a much bigger player and more critical to the EU's future.
PhilTheFragger
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the other big thing to bear in mind is that Italy Etc are in the Euro, we are not, therefore it is easier for us to leave without A) noticing much difference and B) not destabilising the Euro.
In my mind we put in far more than we get out, if all the Brussels bureaucracy was kyboshed and we kept the contributions, the deficit would come tumbling down
In my mind we put in far more than we get out, if all the Brussels bureaucracy was kyboshed and we kept the contributions, the deficit would come tumbling down
Junior
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I watched some more news regarding the referendum yesterday…..the actions of the Greek PM were very interesting and emotive. He stated he would have vetoed any agreement that reduced the number of migrants entering the UK. If anything, he switched me more towards a ‘brexit’ vote. Greece were allowed into the EU despite them not meeting the financial criteria (how can this happen anyway?), they then borrowed substantial amounts from European Banks at low interest rates and simply just refused to pay it back, because they couldn’t afford too.
I still need more information to make a decision. I like to understand and have quantified in more detail the trade issue. What do we export into the EU that would be compromised if we were to leave ? Has anyone seen any information regarding this yet ?
I still need more information to make a decision. I like to understand and have quantified in more detail the trade issue. What do we export into the EU that would be compromised if we were to leave ? Has anyone seen any information regarding this yet ?
Tashyboy
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Seems a bit ironic to me that a government that has spent the last 30 odd years fighting, destroying and disregarding unions is now telling us to stay in one 😳
Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
Doon frae Troon
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400+ MP are in the IN camp.
130 Tories and the ONE kipper on the side of the OUT.
Tory party split straight down the middle.
Summary ......Half the Tory party MP's wish to leave, the other half and nearly all of the other party MP's wish to stay.
All of this on the BBC news so it must be correct.
130 Tories and the ONE kipper on the side of the OUT.
Tory party split straight down the middle.
Summary ......Half the Tory party MP's wish to leave, the other half and nearly all of the other party MP's wish to stay.
All of this on the BBC news so it must be correct.
Hacker Khan
Yurt Dwelling, Yoghurt Knitter
Speaking as someone who is off to America in a months time well done everyone with your Little Britain Brexit nonsense. I've already lost out financially and the election date has only been announced a day ago, think of the financial carnage that will occur if we do exit?
'Ooh we can govern ourselves'. Well whuppy do, best of luck governing the UK with a worthless currency. What you going to do to keep the economy going, sell Ye Olde Anna Hathaways Cottage mugs to each other and a plastic replicas of Big Ben?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35628733
'Ooh we can govern ourselves'. Well whuppy do, best of luck governing the UK with a worthless currency. What you going to do to keep the economy going, sell Ye Olde Anna Hathaways Cottage mugs to each other and a plastic replicas of Big Ben?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35628733
Hacker Khan
Yurt Dwelling, Yoghurt Knitter
Rumour has it that golf equipment will be more expensive if we leave*. Just think about that.
* I made that one up. But then again it seems to be the done thing at the moment, so technically I'm only doing what a lot of politicians seem to be doing.
MegaSteve
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Speaking as someone who is off to America in a months time well done everyone with your Little Britain Brexit nonsense. I've already lost out financially and the election date has only been announced a day ago, think of the financial carnage that will occur if we do exit?
'Ooh we can govern ourselves'. Well whuppy do, best of luck governing the UK with a worthless currency. What you going to do to keep the economy going, sell Ye Olde Anna Hathaways Cottage mugs to each other and a plastic replicas of Big Ben?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35628733
Herself has a rather smug look having got her Dollars last week...
MegaSteve
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400+ MP are in the IN camp.
130 Tories and the ONE kipper on the side of the OUT.
Tory party split straight down the middle.
Summary ......Half the Tory party MP's wish to leave, the other half and nearly all of the other party MP's wish to stay.
All of this on the BBC news so it must be correct.
Ah... The village of Westminster...
Believe I saw a headline saying fifty of the Top100 bosses are in favour of in...
Does that mean the other fifty are in favour of Brexit
I wonder if Tony is turning in his grave watching his lad on the telly just now...
Junior
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Rumour has it that golf equipment will be more expensive if we leave*. Just think about that.
* I made that one up. But then again it seems to be the done thing at the moment, so technically I'm only doing what a lot of politicians seem to be doing.
Very good....that's my mind made up haha
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
Very good....that's my mind made up haha
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/news...on-brexit-concerns/ar-BBpNDj2?ocid=spartandhp
Looks like the investors have made their minds up too.
