EU Referendum
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Hacker Khan
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Ethan
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A cynical move, I suspect, positioning him as leader-in-waiting if a Brexit is supported by the referendum and Cameron et al have to resign and hold an election.
SocketRocket
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As is saying it will it safer to be out!
Btw. Nothing wrong with gilded lilies! I gave one to my parents for their 50th Wedding Anniversary - with an appropriate note about same! And I don't think it was quite the appropriate metaphor in the first place. Simply 'not the full story' or 'not both sides of the coin' would be more like it - for both arguments!
have you not heard that saying before? It was always (or where I came from) well known metaphor for when someone was exaggerating something. Maybe not the same in the antipodes .
Old Skier
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You are aware that it was spelt MUSLIN
So now your saying you were googling for some cloth, I see.
SocketRocket
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I think Cameron is going soon anyway. He was in a real hurry to get the begging over so he could call a quick referendum, he had plenty of time to carry on and work for a better deal.
Tashyboy
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Me and Missis T are on holiday in Italy when the vote is on, how can we get to vote?
If the vote is out, we might not let you back in!
Where to this time Tashy. We're thinking of Apuglia this year...
Tashyboy
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I know that this campaign is going to get dirty, but I thought Cameron's quote along the lines of " siding with Nigel Farage and George Galloway" had a bit of desperation about it. There are village idiots and educated people in both camps, and everyone else inbetween.
To vote to stay in just because Farage and Galloway want to get out, smacks of desperation.
To vote to stay in just because Farage and Galloway want to get out, smacks of desperation.
Tashyboy
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For gods sake don't say that, that would be a massive boost to the Brexit campaign.
We are stopping in Saronno, North of Milan for a week, we have some friends in Ceriano Laghetto so will see them for a few days and then have a drive around. I want to go to Lake Maggiore whilst there.
Missis T somehow came across an area called Terre Cinque ( five towns ) in Liguria. Looks stunning, apparantly they are trying to ban tourists from going. Could be a flight into Pisa and a drive. This then progressed to goin to San Gimignano. originally we were having a week in Puglia and a week in Sicily. But looks like that has been put on the back burner.
Watching "two greedy Italians" earlier, they were in the Italian Alps "Valtelina", went there 13 years ago when my lad was 13 and a goalkeeper for the local rep football team. What a four days that was. Beautiful it was, in fact sod it al take Missis T up there when in Saronno.
Anyway one night it was about 10.30 and black as the ace of spades. I was looking over the balcony 200 yd straight down into a valley which fed into Valtelina and it started lightning over the mountains, then you could hear the rumble of thunder. 20-25 mins later we were in the middle of it. It was the most fantastic light and sound show I have ever seen. Then about 3 mins to 11 the church bells started ringing in a village, a min later another church bells cracked up. This went on til about five past 11. All the vicars watches must be rubbish, but listening to the church bells and lightning and claps of thunder all around was something I will never forget.
Doon frae Troon
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For the next four months I am quite looking forward to the two fragments of the Tory party tearing itself apart.
Once the hyena packs have finished, I wonder what will be left.
ColchesterFC
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Why do you think that the two sides will tear themselves apart rather than having a mature debate based on individual's beliefs? Or is it simply wishful thinking on your part?
I dare say there'll be some blood letting in all the parties. Already heard of dissension in the Labour and SNP ranks.
SwingsitlikeHogan
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Is the dissention in the SNP that of Jim Sillars? Sillars wants UK out of Europe to heighten calls for a second independence referendum; Sturgeon doesn't want that pressure as I don't think she wants a 2nd referendum for a good few years. Despite what some (even on here) seem to think - Sturgeon herself isn't calling for a 2nd referendum - she ALWAYS says that she'll only push for one when the Scottish electorate demands one - and if she has any sense (and she has lots) is likely to interpret 'demands' as polls showing at least 55:45 YES.
Sillars wants Scotland out of the UK asap and for an independent Scotland to seek EU membership and he thinks that will be easier were Scotland leaving a UK that had it's self the EU. He reckons that a Scotland that has left a UK that is still in EU will have a harder time getting EU membership. Both tracks are Scotland independent in the EU - it's in the order and timing that they differ.
It wasn't Sillars, it was a female SNP MP - reported in either the Guardian or Telegraph, and no I don't read the Mail.
I think an independent Scotland would be welcomed with open arms into the EU. After all, with the oil revenue 'v' Scottish GDP the tariff the EU would extract from Scotland would be painful, and the EU would need to balance some of the lost UK contributions from somewhere.
Doon frae Troon
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seochris
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Surprised nobody put a poll up on this one...maybe its not allowed!
Old Skier
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It's in another thread
MegaSteve
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May I suggest Ms Sturgeon takes her second in command to one side and explain the 'plan' to him...
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