EU Referendum

[ColchesterFC]

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/news...on-brexit-concerns/ar-BBpNDj2?ocid=spartandhp

Looks like the investors have made their minds up too.

Interesting that you chose to link to that version of the story that suggests it's due to fears over a Brexit rather than one of the more balanced reports that suggest it's due to uncertainty. Also interesting that your story just focusses on one day and forgets to mention that the pound had fallen 17% against the dollar over the last 18 months due to other factors not linked to Brexit. A more cynical person might suggest you ignored the other reports as they don't support your bias on the matter.

I suppose we should be grateful that you are broadening your reading and not just relying on Wings for your stories.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Interesting that you chose to link to that version of the story that suggests it's due to fears over a Brexit rather than one of the more balanced reports that suggest it's due to uncertainty. Also interesting that your story just focusses on one day and forgets to mention that the pound had fallen 17% against the dollar over the last 18 months due to other factors not linked to Brexit. A more cynical person might suggest you ignored the other reports as they don't support your bias on the matter.

I suppose we should be grateful that you are broadening your reading and not just relying on Wings for your stories.

Good tactics though, worked well for Westminster in the Scottish referendum.:lol:

 

[Tashyboy]

Seems a bit ironic to me that a government that has spent the last 30 odd years fighting, destroying and disregarding unions is now telling us to stay in one 

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

Bump, no Tekkers from the stay in campaigners.

 

[SocketRocket]

Speaking as someone who is off to America in a months time well done everyone with your Little Britain Brexit nonsense. I've already lost out financially and the election date has only been announced a day ago, think of the financial carnage that will occur if we do exit?

'Ooh we can govern ourselves'. Well whuppy do, best of luck governing the UK with a worthless currency. What you going to do to keep the economy going, sell Ye Olde Anna Hathaways Cottage mugs to each other and a plastic replicas of Big Ben?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35628733

They lock up yoghurt knitters over there! It's a Federal offence. If you think it's that bad here what will you think when Donald gets in the White House?

 

[Tashyboy]

They lock up yoghurt knitters over there! It's a Federal offence. If you think it's that bad here what will you think when Donald gets in the White House?

I hope that's Donald Duck and not Donald Trump your referring to

 

[SocketRocket]

I hope that's Donald Duck and not Donald Trump your referring to

Both quackers so makes little difference :smirk:

 

[FairwayDodger]

I still need more information to make a decision. I like to understand and have quantified in more detail the trade issue. What do we export into the EU that would be compromised if we were to leave ? Has anyone seen any information regarding this yet ?

Well, for example, if our salmon farmers know anything about the issues faced by their Norwegian colleagues they will be quite concerned.....

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Cameron ignoring Nicola's advice to support the IN vote by not campaigning in Scotland.
Silly boy.

 

[larmen]

I still need more information to make a decision. I like to understand and have quantified in more detail the trade issue. What do we export into the EU that would be compromised if we were to leave ? Has anyone seen any information regarding this yet ?

I don't know about particular industries, but some medium sized companies will miss out on export, and therefore will pay less taxes, have to lay off people and therefore pay less NI contributions, and of course the staff that have to leave will go onto benefits. Thats a 'few' times a couple of hundred people. Britain is quite a mail order country and has a few entrepreneurs in it.

So there is no big car industry, big shipping industry, ... but it might still hurt.


Is it possible that the financial sector, over time, moves itself to Frankfurt or Amsterdam? That could be real pain then.

 

[SocketRocket]

I don't know about particular industries, but some medium sized companies will miss out on export, and therefore will pay less taxes, have to lay off people and therefore pay less NI contributions, and of course the staff that have to leave will go onto benefits. Thats a 'few' times a couple of hundred people. Britain is quite a mail order country and has a few entrepreneurs in it.

So there is no big car industry, big shipping industry, ... but it might still hurt.

Is it possible that the financial sector, over time, moves itself to Frankfurt or Amsterdam? That could be real pain then.

Now theres a scare story !

Please can you quantify why these medium companies will lose out on exports? Are you suggesting that EU countries will not want to tap into the fifth biggest economy in the World. Give us a break.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Liking that some business folk want out to reduce bureaucratic red tape - when a Leave would mean that the red tape for business that exports and imports to and from the EU must inevitably increase.

And IDS struggling to explain how "we'll be more at risk staying in the EU" - and really only just continuing to dig the hole he's dug himself. He can't admit he was mistaken in saying what he has said - when all the security experts say we benefit from being in EU and Europol.

And then you have two of the leading Leave campaigners being IDS and Grayling - both ministers at the DWP - well - you can tell where they both see the EU interfering with UK policy. Employment rights,safeguards and benefits, union powers, health and safety. And with 20+ yrs of Tory government on the horizon in the even of a Leave I would expect to see significant erosion of rights and UK pulling back from or scrapping UK legislation set in the context of the EU legislation in these areas.

 

[harpo_72]

Now theres a scare story !

Please can you quantify why these medium companies will lose out on exports? Are you suggesting that EU countries will not want to tap into the fifth biggest economy in the World. Give us a break.

Do you honestly think goods from the uk will not be taxed at export? Yeah we will tax on entry ... But who is paying for it ? Us ... The working people who pay tax.
My wife runs her own business, she just looked at it and went, oh I will loose all my European customers, because I am priced out of the market.
On a lighter note ... No oranges, cucumbers or strawberries during the winter, too name but a few items we won't get.

 

[Tashyboy]

Do you honestly think goods from the uk will not be taxed at export? Yeah we will tax on entry ... But who is paying for it ? Us ... The working people who pay tax.
My wife runs her own business, she just looked at it and went, oh I will loose all my European customers, because I am priced out of the market.
On a lighter note ... No oranges, cucumbers or strawberries during the winter, too name but a few items we won't get.

Oranges, cucumbers and strawberries I can do without but if you had said biscuits I would of voted to stay in. 😁

 

[jp5]

Cameron ignoring Nicola's advice to support the IN vote by not campaigning in Scotland.
Silly boy.

Quite demeaning of Sturgeon to insult her people like that. I'm sure those north of the border are capable of taking the EU referendum debate separately from party politics.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Quite demeaning of Sturgeon to insult her people like that. I'm sure those north of the border are capable of taking the EU referendum debate separately from party politics.

So a Tory PM campaigning on a EU debate whilst a Scottish Election is taking place is 'not party politics'. yea:lol:

 

[Hobbit]

So a Tory PM campaigning on a EU debate whilst a Scottish Election is taking place is 'not party politics'. yea:lol:

In your opinion.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

In your opinion.

Obviously, otherwise I would not have typed it.

 

[SocketRocket]

Do you honestly think goods from the uk will not be taxed at export? Yeah we will tax on entry ... But who is paying for it ? Us ... The working people who pay tax.
My wife runs her own business, she just looked at it and went, oh I will loose all my European customers, because I am priced out of the market.
On a lighter note ... No oranges, cucumbers or strawberries during the winter, too name but a few items we won't get.

Do you honestly think that the EU will place trade controls on the UK? As I said the UK is a massive market for them and they will not want anything to restrict their goods being sold here. A suitable free trade arrangement will be in every ones interest and WILL happen.

 

[Stegsie]

An interesting talk on Radio 4 about this earlier today. I think it'll be a purely emotion decision for most people. What is it until the referendum, 14 weeks?

Not enough time for most people to get informed and with the exception of those with a vested interest in politics etc most will just go with a gut feeling.

 

[delc]

I shall be voting for staying in, on the grounds that there is nothing that the EU can do to us that could possibly be worse than anything an unrestrained extreme right-wing Tory Government, or for that matter, an extreme left-wing Labour party, could inflict on us! :mmm: