EU Referendum

[MarkE]

Not a subject of this matter, many of Joe Public had very little knowledge of the fallout of a leave vote and voted because they don't like the Torries or they think there are too many immigrants. The public were far too ill informed for this sort of referendum IMO

But again, that's intimating that the public are'nt smart enough to work out what is important to themselves and vote accordingly.

 

[Val]

But again, that's intimating that the public are'nt smart enough to work out what is important to themselves and vote accordingly.

Don't you watch the telly? Many people interviewed said those very things

 

[Val]

Not following this. Weren't quite a few Tories vocal leavers, whereas Labour remain?
Also aren't Tories widely disliked in Scotland?

I refer you to my post above

 

[Slime]

:rant:

I've just had a great idea.
Why don't all those who voted leave, myself included, line up against a wall so that the remainers can shoot us.
Maybe, and only maybe, will they then finally shut the Hell up, stop moaning, stop belittling us all the time and stop blaming us for something that MIGHT happen.
It's getting boring now.

:sbox:

 

[harpo_72]

:rant:

I've just had a great idea.
Why don't all those who voted leave, myself included, line up against a wall so that the remainers can shoot us.
Maybe, and only maybe, will they then finally shut the Hell up, stop moaning, stop belittling us all the time and stop blaming us for something that MIGHT happen.
It's getting boring now.

:sbox:

now why would we shoot you?
We could pop you on a boat to a non EU country.

 

[One Planer]

now why would we shoot you?
We could pop you on a boat to a non EU country.

Shouldn't it be the other way around?

 

[harpo_72]

Shouldn't it be the other way around?

He wants to leave ... Plus if most of them do we would free up social housing so we can get all these immigrants off the street. Less drain on the benefits system as well. :whoo:

 

[Hobbit]

How do you put a positive vibe on the £ losing at least 10% of its value? Do you want him dancing around in a clown suit giggling?

By the way it helps people in the UK sell their products abroad for example. I don't want him 'dancing around in a clown suit giggling' and I don't need you putting words in my mouth. I expect him to explain what the issues facing the economy are and a positive outlook on what he proposes to do about it but not to harp on about how his predictions of Brexit are crystallizing

Where have I put words in your mouth? Or is your first response always so aggressive - take a pill before you bust your bra strap.

Total exports = £14 billion
Total imports = £22 billion

A number of those imports include parts that are subsequently used in the product that is exported. Net export value is actually lower than £14 billion. A (minimum) deficit of £8 billion, that is now closer to €9 billion.

All of a sudden we can export cheaper. Whoopie-do! That's assuming someone wants 2 of everything. "Excuse me monsuier, please can I have 2 English dishwashers."

So the orders of close on £42 million currently on our order books has just dropped by €4.5 million but the cost of Dutch labour, for half of the project, we're using has just gone up by 10%. And we're not a big company in an industry with no margin to play with.

Another project that was showing minimum margin is now being run at a loss because of the exchange rate... how much collateral damage do you want across a UK manufacturing base that is already struggling? Knob!

 

[harpo_72]

Bet you Carney would be well chipper if the leavers did ...

 

[Val]

Where have I put words in your mouth? Or is your first response always so aggressive - take a pill before you bust your bra strap.

Total exports = £14 billion
Total imports = £22 billion

A number of those imports include parts that are subsequently used in the product that is exported. Net export value is actually lower than £14 billion. A (minimum) deficit of £8 billion, that is now closer to €9 billion.

All of a sudden we can export cheaper. Whoopie-do! That's assuming someone wants 2 of everything. "Excuse me monsuier, please can I have 2 English dishwashers."

So the orders of close on £42 million currently on our order books has just dropped by €4.5 million but the cost of Dutch labour, for half of the project, we're using has just gone up by 10%. And we're not a big company in an industry with no margin to play with.

Another project that was showing minimum margin is now being run at a loss because of the exchange rate... how much collateral damage do you want across a UK manufacturing base that is already struggling? Knob!

I said this before, trying to put a positive spin on a poor pound stating its good for export is nonsense when your imports far exceed exports especially if those imports are involved in producing items to export.

 

[harpo_72]

Where have I put words in your mouth? Or is your first response always so aggressive - take a pill before you bust your bra strap.

Total exports = £14 billion
Total imports = £22 billion

A number of those imports include parts that are subsequently used in the product that is exported. Net export value is actually lower than £14 billion. A (minimum) deficit of £8 billion, that is now closer to €9 billion.

All of a sudden we can export cheaper. Whoopie-do! That's assuming someone wants 2 of everything. "Excuse me monsuier, please can I have 2 English dishwashers."

So the orders of close on £42 million currently on our order books has just dropped by €4.5 million but the cost of Dutch labour, for half of the project, we're using has just gone up by 10%. And we're not a big company in an industry with no margin to play with.

Another project that was showing minimum margin is now being run at a loss because of the exchange rate... how much collateral damage do you want across a UK manufacturing base that is already struggling? Knob!

second occasion basic economics has been explained with examples and it's gone over their heads ... Explain to them that contributions that give us our welfare system will reduce with the loss of jobs because of these increased business costs and that will go over their heads as well...

 

[williamalex1]

Time to get a plan together not argue , what's done is done we are out, end of story.

 

[harpo_72]

Time to get a plan together not argue , what's done is done we are out, end of story.

I found a boat, all the leavers can get on it and leave ... That's a mighty fine plan

 

[SocketRocket]

Where have I put words in your mouth? Or is your first response always so aggressive - take a pill before you bust your bra strap.

Total exports = £14 billion
Total imports = £22 billion

A number of those imports include parts that are subsequently used in the product that is exported. Net export value is actually lower than £14 billion. A (minimum) deficit of £8 billion, that is now closer to €9 billion.

All of a sudden we can export cheaper. Whoopie-do! That's assuming someone wants 2 of everything. "Excuse me monsuier, please can I have 2 English dishwashers."

So the orders of close on £42 million currently on our order books has just dropped by €4.5 million but the cost of Dutch labour, for half of the project, we're using has just gone up by 10%. And we're not a big company in an industry with no margin to play with.

Another project that was showing minimum margin is now being run at a loss because of the exchange rate... how much collateral damage do you want across a UK manufacturing base that is already struggling? Knob!

By your exaggerated comment which was uncalled for and where was I aggressive. I have made no rude remarks to you and have not suggested in any way that your comments are not valid or that you are not in any way entitled to them, you were the one making exaggerated remarks. Maybe you could allow me to express an opinion without reverting to calling me a 'Knob' which is uncalled for.

Our products being cheaper does not only apply only to someone ordering a dishwasher. To some organisations it makes their products much more attractive abroad and especially where high batches and low cost are involved. An overvalued pound is not always good for business. I appreciate that some companies will have difficulties where they work close to the wire with profits but surely you were aware this referendum was coming and there was always a chance of leave winning with the expected market and sterling fluctuations that would inevitably follow.

Also, don't make out you have been all one sided in this, you have made a number of posts criticising the strategies of 'project fear'. I believe you were also saying you would vote leave for some time. Did you expect the UK returning to being an independent country to be plain sailing. A cynic knows the cost of everything but the value of nothing.

8 Billion pounds is around 9.3 Billion Euros.

 

[Slime]

I found a boat, all the leavers can get on it and leave ... That's a mighty fine plan

I have a better plan!
Put the remainers on the boat.
You'd have more room as there are fewer of you!

 

[SocketRocket]

I found a boat, all the leavers can get on it and leave ... That's a mighty fine plan

So what's it called 'Leavey McLeaveface'

 

[williamalex1]

I found a boat, all the leavers can get on it and leave ... That's a mighty fine plan

That's one mighty big boat and you'll pass all the boat people heading this way.:smirk:

 

[Blue in Munich]

I wouldn't quite call them the great unwashed but yes I agree

Given the tone of the thread towards those who voted leave, and the Urban Dictionary definition, it seemed quite appropriate;

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=the great unwashed

 

[harpo_72]

I have a better plan!
Put the remainers on the boat.
You'd have more room as there are fewer of you!

You missed the small print on the voting card ...

 

[bobmac]

I found a boat, all the leavers can get on it and leave ... That's a mighty fine plan

The leavers want to leave Europe, not Britain