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It seems that Baxters Foods in Morayshire is closing its beetroot production line and moving it to Poland next year.

So that's a sad story with a number of lost jobs without us even leaving the EU.

I wonder which way that workforce will vote tomorrow
 

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Is there a reason why you never make reference to the Labour politicians in the Leave camp or Mr Corbyn's less than enthusiastic support for Remain.

Actually based upon your previous utterances I suppose that is a silly question.

Because Gove and Bojo are the ones most often stuck in front of us on TV and on the radio....that's why. I have sometimes wondered if they are the only ones that Leave felt capable of really holding their own. I can count on one hand the times I've heard IDS, Redwood, Greyling - and yes - Kate Howie, John Mann, Dennis Skinner and Frank Field.
 

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Nope, not a single one of them but I don't keep quoting them on here. In the event of a vote to Leave then I believe that trade with the EU will continue pretty much as it does now as it in in the interests of both sides to form a trade agreement. If the Germans decide to play hard ball over an agreement then I can see a lot more Japanese cars on the roads over the next few years as I am sure they would be more than happy to sell them to us. I don't believe all of the apocalyptic versions of events that Remain are trying to sell.

As it happens I won't be able to vote anyway due to a last minute work trip taking me out of the country and it being too late to get a postal vote which means although I'm undecided I don't have to make up my mind either way. But in all likelihood I would have voted to Remain if I had been there to vote, I'm just not so blinkered that I will believe any old line that either side are trying to sell and think that the truth is somewhere in between.

If you listen to the talk given by Prof Michael Dougan (link posted by HK I believe earlier) you'll hear that tariffs etc are the relatively easy bit. It's the regulations governing goods and services we will wish to sell to the EU that will be the problem - and that will require us aligning ourselves with the EU regulatory requirements, whilst finding ourselves unable to influence them.

Which perhaps gives a clue to why 1285 leaders and bosses of UK companies signed a letter to The Times today saying we need to stay In. Of course Brexit are able to give their counter business supporters. JCB, Wetherspoons and a few others.

And I note that Pasha Khandaker, president of the Bangladesh Caterers Association, supports Leave. And why? Because he wants there to be an increase in non-EU immigration from the sub-continent due to the shortage of chefs coming to the UK to work in Asian restaurants, has anyone told him it's not going to happen?
 
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Because Gove and Bojo are the ones most often stuck in front of us on TV and on the radio....that's why. I have sometimes wondered if they are the only ones that Leave felt capable of really holding their own. I can count on one hand the times I've heard IDS, Redwood, Greyling - and yes - Kate Howie, John Mann, Dennis Skinner and Frank Field.

Gisella Stuart appears to have plenty to say and Corbyn seems very ucomfortable in being asked to lend his support to the Remain camp.

Unfortunately the Labour Party has been as much use as a chocolate teapot to Remain with many of their core voters not being aware of the party's stance.

Also they have failed to appreciate that many of those same voters have genuine concerns over immigration, those concerns do not make them racist.

It would have been better for the campaign if the party had addressed those concerns rather than hoping to capitalise on the infighting within the Conservative party.
 

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It's the regulations governing goods and services we will wish to sell to the EU that will be the problem - and that will require us aligning ourselves with the EU regulatory requirements, whilst finding ourselves unable to influence them.

What will be so difficult about maintaining the standards we currently have that enable to us to sell to the EU? They won't all change suddenly in the event of a Leave vote. And what requirements could the EU possibly introduce that would be so scary that not being able to influence them would be a problem?
 

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According to Private Eye many Britexers secretly hope that remain win.
The reason being that they will have nothing else to winge and moan about in there dull little lives.

Sounds like a recent Scottish referendum.... think your post count might have gone stratospheric in support of SNP after they lost.
 

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What will be so difficult about maintaining the standards we currently have that enable to us to sell to the EU? They won't all change suddenly in the event of a Leave vote. And what requirements could the EU possibly introduce that would be so scary that not being able to influence them would be a problem?

But half the people who vote leave keep moaning about these regulations. Now you're saying they're no issue?
 

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What will be so difficult about maintaining the standards we currently have that enable to us to sell to the EU? They won't all change suddenly in the event of a Leave vote. And what requirements could the EU possibly introduce that would be so scary that not being able to influence them would be a problem?

Because we are leaving for ever - and so as regulations and standards change over the years and decades - if we wish to sell in to the EU then we will have to change to align with these changes - without being able to influence them.
 
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