EU Referendum

[Deleted member 15344]

I changed from voting out of the EU to now voting to stay in

I believe this whole campaign has been a disgrace with the way some have conducted themselves - a lot of arrogance , bigotry , racism , hiding of the truth , plain lying

Some of the stuff been said by people and on social media has disgusted me and changed my opinion about how great a nation we are

Felt disappointed by the whole thing

One thing that has struck me is how arrogant the "English" are in regards this - they firmly believe the vote is all about them - the phrase "Little Englander" couldn't be more apt

 

[Imurg]

Haven't read read through all of this thread but I'll be voting remain today.

Nick, I know it's got the makings of a reasonable day but we can't stick on a Thursday forever......😂😂😂😂

 

[Crazyface]

I also look forward in 10 years time when we have no money, are overun with immigrants, can't get to see our doctors, get into the NHS to have a vital operation etc etc....asking people which way they voted.....will they be brave enough to admit they slewed us over? No they won't.

(I told you all about Villa didn't I)

 

[Hacker Khan]

Watching last nights BBC news some bloke reporter was asking people why they were going to vote the way the were. the Remain answers were, basically....I'm scared of whats over the fence. The Leavers meanwhile actually had reasons...immigration, I want to be governed by elected people, Camerons lied to us, the money we give can be used here.

And that is the reasons the Leave people are English Lions. We are not scared OF ANYONE !

Apart from Europeans immigrants it would seem.....

 

[Old Skier]

I have said I am not an expert - why do you want me to paraphrase what a Professor of European Law will explain fully - if you will just listen to what he says.

I enjoyed the video and found it interesting however I did listen to it with half of me realising he is a well paid up consultant of the Governmet (and been bought in by both sides). I'm not sure he would want to risk losing a very well paid fee.

 

[Deleted member 18121]

I voted via postal a couple of weeks ago....voted out and I hope it happens, but it wont because "people" are scared of change.

I watched a few minutes of the Jeremy Paxman EU debate last night, which was simply embarrassing. I have a major dislike of politics and politicians.

 

[Hacker Khan]

I enjoyed the video and found it interesting however I did listen to it with half of me realising he is a well paid up consultant of the Governmet (and been bought in by both sides). I'm not sure he would want to risk losing a very well paid fee.

So you are effectively saying that if someone gets so much knowledge on a subject that they are trusted enough to be used as aa independent consultant by both sides then you can't trust their views as they are biased. Kind of sums up the paranoid logic free mentality of some of the leave campaign to me really.

Trust me, he will have enough work whatever happens, in fact he said in the video if we leave he will have huge amounts of work sorting the legal mess out.

 

[Old Skier]

So much for EU democracy. The President of the EU has openly stated that there will be no further reforms of current EU legislation although many of the leaders of country's in the EU (and the people who voted him in) have stated that reforms are required. This included the controllers of the EU, Germany and France.

And I thought that this was something that MEPs were paid to decide.

Just saying.

 

[Deleted member 18121]

Kind of sums up the paranoid logic free mentality of some of the leave campaign to me really.

There are just as many remain voters with the same paranoid logic. It's not exclusive.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I voted via postal a couple of weeks ago....voted out and I hope it happens, but it wont because "people" are scared of change.

I watched a few minutes of the Jeremy Paxman EU debate last night, which was simply embarrassing. I have a major dislike of politics and politicians.

And just to say my reasons for remain is not because "im scared of change"

It's another thing about the whole process that is appalling - people unable to respect people having differing reasons for voting the way they are

There will more reasons for people voting the way they are beyond "being scared of change"

 

[Old Skier]

So you are effectively saying that if someone gets so much knowledge on a subject that they are trusted enough to be used as aa independent consultant by both sides then you can't trust their views as they are biased. Kind of sums up the paranoid logic free mentality of some of the leave campaign to me really.

Trust me, he will have enough work whatever happens, in fact he said in the video if we leave he will have huge amounts of work sorting the legal mess out.

If you mean by both sides, leave and remain I think you are wrong. I was on about Labour and Conservative.

Anyway off to vote and then down to Woodbury.

What ever the result, good luck to both sides.

 

[vkurup]

Rain, thunder and lightening might stop people from going to the polls. Surely the Govt should have foreseen this and made arrangements maybe extend the 10pm deadline. (Wasn't this the kind of argument when people blamed the IT for not being able to cope up with the last min rush)

 

[Fish]

I voted out, I was out at the start and even more out towards this day after learning how much control we have lost and where thriving British businesses are being stifled so that European countries can import more competitively, we are being stripped of our identity and just becoming another pawn in the big boys club who make up the rules for us which we must follow and can't change and we can't even vote those decision makers out, it's diabolical, OUT!

I truly hope we come out but I feel it will be too close and we will remain, and then I expect some backlash from Brussels, they'll flex their muscles on us, especially as France & Germany are on their arses but not to worry, we'll bail everyone out until we are crippled!

Cameron has been weak in all of this, he came back with nothing and went back on his word, Corbyn for once isn't standing by his principles, so in essence all the political leaders are looking after themselves, as usual, snouts in the trough this way........

 

[ger147]

So much for EU democracy. The President of the EU has openly stated that there will be no further reforms of current EU legislation although many of the leaders of country's in the EU (and the people who voted him in) have stated that reforms are required. This included the controllers of the EU, Germany and France.

And I thought that this was something that MEPs were paid to decide.

Just saying.

He won't be president for much longer, and I believe for the next EU president, it's the UK's turn...

 

[NWJocko]

Apart from Europeans immigrants it would seem.....

:thup:

"English Lions" :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

 

[Junior]

I voted this morning. I'll be glad when it's all over............ Politicians on both sides calling each other liars, the constant manipulation of statistics and scaremongering from our politicians has been embarrassing. The campaigning may well have just been done in a playground.

 

[User62651]

Yep, voted early too, polling station next door and sunny day up here so no excuses, never been a reluctant voter before but was today, even in the booth I was struggling but out of principle of democracy and those who've died defending it I like to vote, really glad that's over, my little brain can stop hurting now, seriously had a migraine yesterday, still feel hungover from it today, have meetings all day when all I'd like to do is sleep.

 

[FairwayDodger]

I voted in. The world's getting smaller and we need to participate in greater cooperation internationally as we head into the future rather than burying our heads in the sand and, like children, blaming everyone but ourselves for our problems.

The campaign has been an embarrassment on both sides but I'm genuinely in shock at the depths to which leave sank and how truly unprincipled their leaders are. If anyone likes boris and didn't see newsnight last night I suggest you try and find it because that guy should not be anywhere near a position of authority.

 

[User20205]

Apart from Europeans immigrants it would seem.....

Always wondered about the English lion thing. Don't get many prowling the plains of leafy Berkshire

Maybe an English badger would be a better metaphor ?

 

[Junior]

I voted in. The world's getting smaller and we need to participate in greater cooperation internationally as we head into the future rather than burying our heads in the sand and, like children, blaming everyone but ourselves for our problems.

The campaign has been an embarrassment on both sides but I'm genuinely in shock at the depths to which leave sank and how truly unprincipled their leaders are. If anyone likes boris and didn't see newsnight last night I suggest you try and find it because that guy should not be anywhere near a position of authority.

Sadly Karen it's not just Boris. He is one of many of the old boys network, and quite a few now are simply 'career politicians' with little first hand experience of the real world. This debate has really made me lose faith in the integrity of our leaders.