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Oh I do thank you!!



C'mon then Ethan, am I still a liar? I can't believe you could be wrong!! No, no apology necessary.

I guess Aztec will be taking back his "like" now that its been proven to be wrong...

Don't hold your breath waiting for an apology. Your posts are pretty poor attempts at wit in lieu of actual facts. I guess you don't have much of either.
 

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Its amusing that both side can play with the numbers and get an interpretation they like.

In round figures. Say A pays B £350m, B pays A about £200m so B is better off than A by £150m: e.g. A's net contribution to B. I guess no disagreement yet.

Now A decides not to play with B anymore. A doesn't write cheques to B so now has £350m to do stuff elsewhere or not. B no longer has A's cash but does not have or need to pay A the £200m but will need to find another source for the £150m.

But the daft argument has grown as to whether A is £350m better off or just £150m better off. I'll duck now.
 

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Yes - if many who voted Tory gave a jot about the likes of my son when they read the guff the likes of the DM spouts about the scrouging unemployed

Interesting that you blame Tory voters for not caring about your son when it was a Labour government that introduced sanctions on JSA and the stringency of them while they were in power. For instance Labour brought in the job search requirement for single parents when their youngest child reached the age of 12 and then subsequently dropped this age to 7. Yes there have been an increase in sanctions over the years as new rules were introduced but to try and pin it on Tory voters or the Conservatives is poor. It seems that no matter what colour of government is in power they are maintaining existing sanctions and introducing new ones.

As for your son, how long would you like the rest of us to support him while he waits for the perfect job to come up? 2 years? 5 years? Reed are currently advertising more than 2700 jobs in Sheffield. Jobsite have over 900 jobs in Sheffield. Totaljobs have over 1900 jobs in Sheffield. Of course some of those won't be suitable for him but are you really trying to say that it is impossible for him to find a job while he looks for something better?
 

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If I've got out of the UK then I have the right to travel. They do not need to see my passport.

I'm about to boost their pityful economy, they need me, I require their sun. Let me get in and start boosting.
When we vote out and Greece and Portugal and Italy will not be able to be supported by the EU, watch the prices fall in those countries as the pound soars !!!

Can't think why some people see the leave campaign as full of narrow minded little England xenephobes...
 

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Can't think why some people see the leave campaign as full of narrow minded little England xenephobes...

There's little England xenephobes in all walks of life, remain supporters included. Just that in general, Leave supporters don't constantly throw negative stereotypes at the opposition, maybe because we have something more important to get across than facile insults.
 

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Can't think why some people see the leave campaign as full of narrow minded little England xenephobes...

To start with I call out that statement as xenophobic as it is vilifies the Little England Race, yes Sir, you are being Racist calling them all Narrow Minded. Shame on you and a pestilence upon your Yurt and Yoghurt.
 

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Be interested to know who these narrow minded bigots are. Or do we already know.

Apparently they are vertically challenged people who live in England. You can recognise them by their narrow heads and their Xenophobes which I am told is an English version of a Vuvazella. Most of them seem to live in Chipping Sodbury.
 

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Its amusing that both side can play with the numbers and get an interpretation they like.

In round figures. Say A pays B £350m, B pays A about £200m so B is better off than A by £150m: e.g. A's net contribution to B. I guess no disagreement yet.

Now A decides not to play with B anymore. A doesn't write cheques to B so now has £350m to do stuff elsewhere or not. B no longer has A's cash but does not have or need to pay A the £200m but will need to find another source for the £150m.

But the daft argument has grown as to whether A is £350m better off or just £150m better off. I'll duck now.

As things stand we would be 150million a week better off. BUT, we do pay the 350m, getting 200m or so back in rebates and subsidies. But, as the Leave side keeps explaining, these rebates have no guarantee, so once the referendum is over, theres no saying we will definitely continue to receive those rebates. As it is, the eu would straight away be 150m a week worse off. No wonder they are so keen for us to remain. (Well someone has to prop up the basket case economies they let in).
 
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As things stand we would be 150million a week better off. BUT, we do pay the 350m, getting 200m or so back in rebates and subsidies. But, as the Leave side keeps explaining, these rebates have no guarantee, so once the referendum is over, theres no saying we will definitely continue to receive those rebates. As it is, the eu would straight away be 150m a week worse off. No wonder they are so keen for us to remain.

They clobbered us with a humping great £1.7 Billion extra bill a year ago. Call-Me-Dave said he would not pay it, then he paid it. It was more than twice the other major economies had to pay and all because we were doing better than them. Does anyone actually believe the EU would not continue to squeeze us until the pips squeak to bail out they basket case Euro.
 

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Don't hold your breath waiting for an apology. Your posts are pretty poor attempts at wit in lieu of actual facts. I guess you don't have much of either.

Ooohh! Don't worry I wasn't expecting one. Saves me telling you where to stuff it.

Choices, choices, choices... Believe one of the UK's top barristers or an irritating gnat like you. Even I can work that one out.

But I do congratulate you in your utter lack of grace when proven wrong. No fear of you ever being considered to be a gentleman.
 

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They clobbered us with a humping great £1.7 Billion extra bill a year ago. Call-Me-Dave said he would not pay it, then he paid it. It was more than twice the other major economies had to pay and all because we were doing better than them. Does anyone actually believe the EU would not continue to squeeze us until the pips squeak to bail out they basket case Euro.

Cameron can huff and puff as much as he likes. We all know there is absolutely nothing he can do about the eu. Like his 'negotiated' red card system where we can veto proposed eu legislation if we can get over 50% of member states to agree with us. The UK is lucky to get one other nation to side with us, let alone over 50%. Especially now that the eastern europeans will vote on anything en bloc.
 

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Where's Corbyn, biggest decision in our country's future for a generation and where's Corbyn.

Butlins?
 

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As for your son, how long would you like the rest of us to support him while he waits for the perfect job to come up? 2 years? 5 years? Reed are currently advertising more than 2700 jobs in Sheffield. Jobsite have over 900 jobs in Sheffield. Totaljobs have over 1900 jobs in Sheffield. Of course some of those won't be suitable for him but are you really trying to say that it is impossible for him to find a job while he looks for something better?

If I was interviewing someone for a job and it was clear for whatever reason that he was only going to be there until something better came along I wouldn't employ him.

Sounds like SILH's graduate son might be a bit overqualified for many of those job centre roles.

I'm fairly outraged that we're giving free labour to a corporation like tescos. Surely if they need people they should be paying them?
 
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