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OMG!

Industry will leave the UK in droves if we exit the EU. Its been happening for a few years now, and has nowt to do with the referendum. Companies have been moving manufacturing to places like the Czech Republic for cheap labour. EU laws forbid countries to subsidise industries as it creates unfair competition with industries in other EU countries.

So let's get out of the EU so that we can subsidise our industries to compete. Nooooooooo!!!! Let's stay in and have our industries fail, and employees go on benefits. Noooooo!!!! Let's cut the wages of our workers, and drive up poverty levels in the UK.

But, but, but staying in will give us better access for our industries. What industries? They've shut up shop and moved to the Czech Republic.

When TATA Steel originally sold the blast furnace on Teesside to SSI they got the money from the sale. They got €660million from the EU for reducing the carbon emissions, and they got a massive grant and subsidies to open a plant in Holland. Obviously being in the EU is of a massive benefit to someone, but it wasn't UK industries.
 
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If we leave... will we be able to play in the Euro 2016??... Just when Roy H thought he had a good team, his whole team may be offside!!!
 

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Some more for the Leave campaigners to drill holes into... an interesting article, but unfortunately for the Leavers, it is full of stats that no one likes to hear about.

Here’s the economic reality of Brexit – without the unicorn fantasy
http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...-reality-brexit-eu-referendum-unicorn-fantasy

If anyone is peddling fantasy, it's the remainers. Day after day they come out with unsubstantiated waffle. It's not all about the economy, not that we should believe all the dire warnings from economists with vested interests. The events in Austria just proves what a massive issue uncontrolled migration is and the unrest will only spread throughout Europe if things carry on the same. The EU is destined to fail in any case, lets get out before we are dragged down with the rest.
 

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Some more for the Leave campaigners to drill holes into... an interesting article, but unfortunately for the Leavers, it is full of stats that no one likes to hear about.

Here’s the economic reality of Brexit – without the unicorn fantasy
http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...-reality-brexit-eu-referendum-unicorn-fantasy

It's just the same old scare stories. Not facts but exaggerated very worse case scenarios that egg on the side that we would make very poor decisions in just about everything we did after Brexit. The Guardian is about as unbiased as the Daily Mail in looking at a one sided case study and this one is from an academic from a Scottish University, I posted a video with an Economics Academic who says leaving the EU would be very good for the UK, he makes lots of stats that Remainers don't want to hear about.

Heres another : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leKEUT1TiLU
 
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I love this thread as you can not look at it for weeks and when you come back the same points are being made by the same people. And not one persons opinion has, or is indeed likely to change.;)
 

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I love this thread as you can not look at it for weeks and when you come back the same points are being made by the same people. And not one persons opinion has, or is indeed likely to change.;)

I cant help it if people are so intransigent that they cant agree that 'Leave' is the best choice, even when I have explained it over and over again :)
 

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I love this thread as you can not look at it for weeks and when you come back the same points are being made by the same people. And not one persons opinion has, or is indeed likely to change.;)

I know, great ain't it? It's like sitting with your mates at the pub debating the issues of the day. You're never going to change anybody's opinion, even if, like the remainers, they are totally wrong.:cheers:
 

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I love this thread as you can not look at it for weeks and when you come back the same points are being made by the same people. And not one persons opinion has, or is indeed likely to change.;)
I cant help it if people are so intransigent that they cant agree that 'Leave' is the best choice, even when I have explained it over and over again :)

I'm not sure whether it's a 'Whoosh'! or a :thup:

But certainly a :rofl:
 

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whilst I wouldnt like to see prices fall if they fall by 2k average thats like a fart in the wind really isnt it.. you would make double if not more than that back in the next year rise

Im personally pro stay but I think its a stupid argument to throw out the house prices

I heard house prices could fall by 18%? That's about 1/6th to £50,000 off a £300,000 house.

As it happens every estate agent I have spoken with in the last two months thinks house prices will fall if we leave.
 
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I heard house prices could fall by 18%? That's about 1/6th to £50,000 off a £300,000 house.

As it happens every estate agent I have spoken with in the last two months thinks house prices will fall if we leave.

I've just changed my mind and will now be voting Leave instead of Remain. From a totally selfish stand point of someone looking to buy a house even if we as a household are 2 or 3k worse off each year for a few years the savings that I'll make on the house purchase will cover it easily.

And if Leave could arrange a war between Iran and Saudi to boost oil prices and regenerate my industry then that would be very welcome too.
 

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Love the response from Lidl after being asked about the referendum.

"The German firm said it had 'closely monitored recent discussions' and was 'preparing various scenarios' to tackle the different outcomes of the EU referendum on June 23.
But the firm - which announced in November that it would plough £1.5 billion into opening and refurbishing stores over the next three years - said its 'ongoing operations' would not be impacted, regardless of the final referendum result.
A spokesman for Lidl said: 'We are not a political organisation and, as such, the decision must lie with the British public. However, we have closely monitored recent discussions around a potential departure of Great Britain from the European Union."

Basically saying we're planning for whatever the outcome is but we're not getting involved.


 

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Whats happened to Corbyn has he passed away. I have not heard a jot from him re Europe in ages.
 

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And Estate Agents are renown to be an honest source of information.

Just saying that they think houses prices will fall in the period of uncertainty following a Leave vote. Don't think they have much to gain from prices falling so I can't see any reason for them to be telling me a porky. They could just say that they don't know; or that proces prob wouldn't be affected. But they are all saying they'll fall.
 
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