England

[HomerJSimpson]

The FA should never dictate which players should play for the country - the manager should have free reign on who he selects but Woy is a yes man hence following the party line

That has never happened. The only manager that stood up to the FA was Ramsey. Please stop using "Woy" as it is just making fun of the guy's impediment. The yes man has always been picked. Why do you think Clough never got the job. Why do you think Redknapp never got it?

 

[Pin-seeker]

That has never happened. The only manager that stood up to the FA was Ramsey. Please stop using "Woy" as it is just making fun of the guy's impediment. The yes man has always been picked. Why do you think Clough never got the job. Why do you think Redknapp never got it?

Tbf Redknapp never got it because he's a pants manager & supposedly a bit dodgy

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I thought that the FA burnt their bridges with him; he was tried in a court of law, which is why the FA supposedly didn't act initially, found not guilty and then the FA change the rules and charge him. Whereas others who have been found not guilty in court are welcomed back with open arms.

Thought he also retired from International football but not sure if it was because he felt he wouldn't be picked to play alongside Rio Ferdinand ?

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Tbf Redknapp never got it because he's a pants manager & supposedly a bit dodgy

Didn't stop Venables getting the gig and there has been rumours about his dodgy dealings. I do think he's been over hyped in terms of his managerial ability

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Surely Gerrard is being slated because of his woeful performances.
Pretty sure if Rooney played as bad in the Uruguay game as he did v Italy he would be the one getting the stick.
But let's just pretend everyone's anti Gerrard:thup:

I agree his performances were awful by his standards and deserves the criticism that comes his way for on pitch performances not because of how he spoke at a press conference....

Quote from Rumpo...

Just seen Gerrard in press conference..His conviction to the cause was as good as his performance on the pitch..Alex can't wait to book holiday, and his England future is dependant on advice from others!!??!! Hmmm....Pathetic...

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Didn't stop Venables getting the gig and there has been rumours about his dodgy dealings. I do think he's been over hyped in terms of his managerial ability

At least Venables put round pegs in round holes for the benefit of the team unlike Mr Hodgson.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I agree his performances were awful by his standards and deserves the criticism that comes his way for on pitch performances not because of how he spoke at a press conference....

Quote from Rumpo...

Just seen Gerrard in press conference..His conviction to the cause was as good as his performance on the pitch..Alex can't wait to book holiday, and his England future is dependant on advice from others!!??!! Hmmm....Pathetic...

Or because he wasn't at a press conference as was suggested early that he was hiding ?!

He didn't play well - no one has suggested he did - but to be singled out is wrong but it's not surprising.

 

[Pin-seeker]

I agree his performances were awful by his standards and deserves the criticism that comes his way for on pitch performances not because of how he spoke at a press conference....

Quote from Rumpo...

Just seen Gerrard in press conference..His conviction to the cause was as good as his performance on the pitch..Alex can't wait to book holiday, and his England future is dependant on advice from others!!??!! Hmmm....Pathetic...

I've never slated Gerrard as a person,purely due to his performances. & it's nothing to do with Liverpool,even tho some prefer to think it is.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I agree his performances were awful by his standards and deserves the criticism that comes his way for on pitch performances not because of how he spoke at a press conference....

Quote from Rumpo...

Just seen Gerrard in press conference..His conviction to the cause was as good as his performance on the pitch..Alex can't wait to book holiday, and his England future is dependant on advice from others!!??!! Hmmm....Pathetic...

To be fair though Gerrard has never been comfy doing these interviews and having to deal with the added pressure and inevitable questions just made a hard task harder. I don't give a damn about these conferences and it just gives the press the ammunition for tomorrow headlines. I think he'd want to go home, discuss his future with the club, agent and family and then make a reasoned decision from there.

 

[Rumpokid]

I agree his performances were awful by his standards and deserves the criticism that comes his way for on pitch performances not because of how he spoke at a press conference....

Quote from Rumpo...

Just seen Gerrard in press conference..His conviction to the cause was as good as his performance on the pitch..Alex can't wait to book holiday, and his England future is dependant on advice from others!!??!! Hmmm....Pathetic...

Have you seen the press conference?..And if so did it fill you with confidence for our bright future?..Only 2 questions..Yea/Ney will suffice?..No who said, you said stuff allowed..

 

[Slime]

Like leaving one half of the best centre half pairing in the Premiership and the best defensive left back in the country at home? Great decision by Woy & the FA. :clap:

His name is Roy ....................... with an R.
Take the mick by all means, but not out of people's afflictions.

And rightly so.

In the euros he had free reign expectations were as low as ever so there was no pressure on him. Even when he was defensive England didn't look scoring and was happy to play for pens from the 1st whistle v Italy.

The one thing he hasn't learned from that game is England need pace in the middle of the park ( Parker/Gerrard combo) so he threw paceless Gerrard and Henderson together

He then used 2 strikers as wide men. Welbeck walked straight into that team after having a terrible season for club. Other players who have had better seasons were sitting on the bench. Then his substitutions were clueless and lacked purpose.

As for Cole/Terry not going you can't defend that decision when you've brought Smalling and Jones to replace them.

Cole I agree with Terry couldn't be selected because HE HAS RETIRED!

Stuart was right - you are bitter towards Gerrard and Liverpool players - it's clearly evident in your posts - but you're not on your own on here

Maybe he's trying to even things up with regards to the bias on this thread.
For what it's worth, I hope Gerrard does retire as he's way past his best and I don't think he'd be picked again anyway.


Slime.

 

[Pin-seeker]

Or because he wasn't at a press conference as was suggested early that he was hiding ?!

He didn't play well - no one has suggested he did - but to be singled out is wrong but it's not surprising.

It's what happens in football Phil. You'd be the first to do it if it was Lampard or Carrick. I know I'm right & everyone else does. I'll leave it now before you go crying to the Mods & get me another warning:thup:

 

[Papas1982]

Or because he wasn't at a press conference as was suggested early that he was hiding ?!

He didn't play well - no one has suggested he did - but to be singled out is wrong but it's not surprising.

There were the best part of 20 pages on Rooney being singled out the other day too. Didn't see you day that was wrong.......

 

[Deleted member 1740]

I've never slated Gerrard as a person,purely due to his performances. & it's nothing to do with Liverpool,even tho some prefer to think it is.

I accept your opinion, i don't always agree though but on Gerrard's performance nobody I've read on here is defending him not even LP.

On a side note, When Gerrard slipped up against Chelsea everybody was making fun out of him, i wonder how many where laughing when he set Luis up? I was pissing myself laughing to be honest:rofl:

Karma

 

[Rumpokid]

I accept your opinion, i don't always agree though but on Gerrard's performance nobody I've read on here is defending him not even LP.

On a side note, When Gerrard slipped up against Chelsea everybody was making fun out of him, i wonder how many where laughing when he set Luis up? I was pissing myself laughing to be honest:rofl:

Karma

So what was so funny about it?

 

[Pin-seeker]

I accept your opinion, i don't always agree though but on Gerrard's performance nobody I've read on here is defending him not even LP.

On a side note, When Gerrard slipped up against Chelsea everybody was making fun out of him, i wonder how many where laughing when he set Luis up? I was pissing myself laughing to be honest:rofl:

Karma

Aaaaaawwwww bless they were making fun of him

 

[guest100718]

Note to guest100718; if the FA had allowed it, he'd have gone, but they wouldn't. The FA's attitude is what made him "unavailable" and Woy's line about him being unavailable because he's retired was the party line to deflect blame.

Terry chose to call time on his England career, no one esle. Maybe he felt the FA had it in for him. He could have carried on playinmg but chose to make a statement instead.

 

[Foxholer]

I thought that the FA burnt their bridges with him; he was tried in a court of law, which is why the FA supposedly didn't act initially, found not guilty and then the FA change the rules and charge him. Whereas others who have been found not guilty in court are welcomed back with open arms.

I think you are twisting things a little....

He was stripped of the Captaincy - and Capello resigned because of that - until after the trial; the trial found him not guilty of the criminal offence; he was charged by the FA under its rules; he retired from International Football; an FA hearing (that started the following day) found him guilty.

There were no changes of rules as far as I can see. Can you point out which ones were changed?

 

[Blue in Munich]

Terry chose to call time on his England career, no one esle. Maybe he felt the FA had it in for him. He could have carried on playinmg but chose to make a statement instead.

Oh really?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/wo...n-World-Cup-regrets-Roy-Hodgson.html#comments

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Have you seen the press conference?..And if so did it fill you with confidence for our bright future?..Only 2 questions..Yea/Ney will suffice?..No who said, you said stuff allowed..

To be perfectly honest I've seen very very little of England or anything to do with them as i don't follow them and I've clearly stated that over the years. I'm still allowed an opinion though.

We all know that Gerrard is retiring after this comp and to me it was common knowledge so what he says or doesn't say in a press conference does really matter.

I quoted what you said as it seemed to me you were having a pop at Gerrard because of how he spoke at a press conference which is a cheap shot IMO.

All i want is all of the Liverpool players to get home injury free and go and have a well earned summer break and come back fighting for my club.

International football is a complete joke, riddled with corruption and nobody will ever change it.