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Can someone please tell me what our defence was doing all night? So bad it was embarrassing. First the goal by Ballotelli and now tonight. These are Premier League defenders right?
 
Worst I've ever seen Gerrard play, needs to retire ASAP. Henderson was good and all those that don't think so, I really question your own football ability and knowledge. Didn't give the ball away, always looked like he wanted it and played the sensible ball.

Hodgson needs to step down, clearly doesn't have the balls to take off big name players when they are under performing
 
Worst I've ever seen Gerrard play, needs to retire ASAP. Henderson was good and all those that don't think so, I really question your own football ability and knowledge. Didn't give the ball away, always looked like he wanted it and played the sensible ball.

Hodgson needs to step down, clearly doesn't have the balls to take off big name players when they are under performing

Agreed. I'm a big fan of Henderson,does the job he's there to do,but won't get many MOTM awards for doing it.
 
For the record I thought Henderson was excellent tonight, pressed the ball really well and had an "option" pass most times due to decent vision.

He is really maturing as a very good player - gutted for Gerrard tonight. Has had a cracking season but tonight was just poor
 
Agreed. I'm a big fan of Henderson,does the job he's there to do,but won't get many MOTM awards for doing it.

You're right he wont but he's not there to win MOTM awards. People who slate him don't understand what he's there for. If he isn't spraying balls around or bursting into the box he isn't doing enough. Shows lack of footballing knowledge
 
You're right he wont but he's not there to win MOTM awards. People who slate him don't understand what he's there for. If he isn't spraying balls around or bursting into the box he isn't doing enough. Shows lack of footballing knowledge

Agree - vastly underrated but not with us
 
Probably a lone voice, but thought Gerrard wasn't that bad. Not great admittedly, however I'm not sure what we're expecting from him now that he's playing a deep anchor role?

I'm more worried about the defence, particularly Jag and Johnson. Worryingly poor position play and looked very suspect in both games with the ball over the top.
 
He is really maturing as a very good player - gutted for Gerrard tonight. Has had a cracking season but tonight was just poor

It's easy looking good against WBA, Norwich, Newcastle etc but when you're up against world class opposition you have to be at the top of you're game. He isn't anymore.

He will struggle in Europe against top sides
 
Probably a lone voice, but thought Gerrard wasn't that bad. Not great admittedly, however I'm not sure what we're expecting from him now that he's playing a deep anchor role?

I'm more worried about the defence, particularly Jag and Johnson. Worryingly poor position play and looked very suspect in both games with the ball over the top.

I expected a captains performance.
 
You realise that the golden generation if which you speak only contained Gerrard from the players on the pitch.......

So is Rooney , why did he take lampard , is there no other young players that can go even if its for the experience , Stevie G is a spent force and he made him capt so he had to play him , he handed Man city the title and now his handed his team mates the plane tickets home .....................Its like you really fancy this women and have all the tools but never ask her out , you stick with the same method that has got you nowhere for years , be bold and try , no you do an england and play proven world cup losers over and over again , by the time you get round to it she is dating someone else ......................just putting it in another way ..........................same result England are coming home
 
It's easy looking good against WBA, Norwich, Newcastle etc but when you're up against world class opposition you have to be at the top of you're game. He isn't anymore.

He will struggle in Europe against top sides

All depends on what Gerrard people are expecting now - for us last season he just sat deep in the anchor role and just let Henderson do the running whilst he sat deep - making the odd occasional run and putting in set pieces - just provided an experienced head in the middle - next season will need to see him used correctly and paced properly.
 
Gerrard has had 2 poor games, who else played well?

Sterling looked like England's biggest threat tonight but was taken off:confused:
 
Gerrard has had 2 poor games, who else played well?

Sterling looked like England's biggest threat tonight but was taken off:confused:

Cant understand why Sterling was taken off also - was getting into the right areas and causing trouble.
 
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