richy
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I wonder if you'd say that if he didn't play for Man U. Mind you he wouldn't be near any international squads if he didn't.
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That is the truth.
I wish we had an England manager with the conviction to pick a side on ability and not reputation. Never going to happen as the press would muller him if the likes of Rooney etc were dropped say for the Italy game. Too much pressure and too little time make it impossible for England managers to build and mould.
Slime
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Yes and I didn't realise that you are a seer!
We've got several of them on this forum!
The trouble is that they are so ridiculously biased whilst being totally unaware of it!
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Unlike you who I'm guessing is aware of how bias you are ?
The team I want picked is the one with the players whose form mean they deserve a chance to have a crack at it regardless of what club they play for
richy
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I'm not biased. I support newcastle and we don't have any players in the squad. I only want the best players to play and that does not include Welbeck
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All this talk of dropping players yet Gerrard doesn't get a mention. He wasn't good enough in his prime so he certainly isn't good enough now,especially in the hot climate.
Hes captain so won't get dropped. But it does make a mockery of everyone calling for youth as the golden generation won nothing.
Hoepfully henderson will do enough running.
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But had a cracking second half of the season though
As for wasn't good enough in his prime ?! That's laughable statement - nearly as funny as stating Lampard is the best cm that's been seen in the Prem
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His form has earned him his place.
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This happens in every sport in England!
I blame the Press - for 2 reasons.
1. They are searching for headlines and simpler to single out individuals.
2. They seem to believe the public is ignorant (and they are experts) and needs to be spoon-fed information, both of players and tactics!
Other countries have equivalent stereotypical impediments - NZ has the 'tall poppy syndrome' where anyone getting more than a bit ahead gets bashed, so needs be either a real star or to learn persistence; US has the false build-up, where the athlete's ability is over-hyped and the first encounter with real competition can be a shock; also the 'nappy-change' syndrome, where so much is done for the athlete that they never have to learn to think.
The Aussies seemed to have a pretty good set-up with the Aus Inst of Sport, but there don't seem to be the same number of outstanding athletes coming out of that system as there was before it. Co-incidence or Cause?! It's certainly possible that the 'standardisation' is an inhibitor to individual excellence - the reason that Judy Murray refused to allow Andy to be coached by the BLTA system (Jamie's major weapon, his unorthodox forehand, got destroyed by 'the system' when he was young and simply obeyed his coaches).
Im not saying it hasn't. But some of the youngsters picked haven't been better than the old heads. Cole/shaw for example. But everyone applauds it. And nobody queries it. Although I'm not sure who we could go for. Wilshere of fit maybe I suppose.
Tbf im a massive fan of Gerrard. But I do worry that 3 games in quick succession will be hard on him. Hopefully we will be sorted before Costa Rica.
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Cole was never going to play because of Baines so better to take a talented youngster
Wilshire is never fit and hasn't played anywhere near well enough for months
He won't play the 90 mins every match
Pin-seeker
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I meant for country not club. As for Lampard I know you like stats to back up opinions so check out Lampards. Pretty impressive. He's even won 3 PL titles,imagine that :whoo:
Thing is Lampard is Chelsea's top scorer so definitely the best CM in his sides history and I'd suggest for a couple of years he was in the top three in that position. Not now. Same with Gerrard and although he may have had a decent second half to the season I think he's just over the crest. A long way from finished as a top player but not the best for the CM in the England side anymore.
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I'm totally aware Phil and have admitted so on the Best Prem XI thread, post #82, I just wish some other were aware of how unbeleivably biased and myopic they are!
So? You can still be biased AGAINST players.
It would appear that Hodgson disagrees with you, I wish someone would tell him
.For what it's worth, I thought Welbeck had a really good game last night ..................... what did you think?
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For country he has had to sit and not play his natural game to allow Lampard to be able to play his natural game.
Regardless of whatever stats can be produced for Lampard he still wouldn't make him the best CM in the prem
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Who do you play instead of him then ?
Pin-seeker
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No his name earned him his place. Never been good enough to win his domestic league even when playing amongst top players & never performed on the world stage. FACT. If you need evidence I'll be happy to supply it :thup:
For someone who demands verification for everything I find it strange you deny the stats that prove Lampard is the best CM in the PL's history.
