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England may not do too well but at least they get there - when was the last time for the "Tartan Army " - 98 ?

Henderson gets in the "team" ( not just the squad )because he has had a great season playing to a very good level throughout. Fully deserves his place in the team.

That catch was too easy.

Henderson is a nothing footballer,nothing.
 
That catch was too easy.

Henderson is a nothing footballer,nothing.

Henderson is a player who has been at the heart of a team challenging for the title - certainly better than anything seen over the border. But im guessing you will prob have more experience of nothing footballers :thup:
 
Your lot may well have won the league with a footballer in his position.

Well we did have our worst results when he was suspended towards the end and he didnt play but not sure you would like facts to get in the way of anything.
 
Henderson is a player who has been at the heart of a team challenging for the title - certainly better than anything seen over the border. But im guessing you will prob have more experience of nothing footballers :thup:

I am not questioning the standard in Scotland I am merely giving my opinion on Henderson who is a nothing footballer.

No doubt you will agree on my assessment of Wellbeck though.
 
I'm on the fence with henderson. He deserves his place in the team as has perfromed well. I think Gerrard has a big influence on that.

Not sure he'll be in the england team long term, IF wilshere can last 6 month fit and healthy.

He does a lot of Gerrards running now, allowing gerrard to play make.
 
I'll await his shining performances over the next 3 weeks then.

They won't happen by the way.

Depends on what your expectations of him are - he is someone in the middle who provides the continuity - the energy , clears up the rubbish and is all over the pitch being available for a pass and then just passing it on , he is a link man who will pop up with the odd goal and provide an assist - he allows other players to go and express themselves , he has the energy to fill in the holes. its solid , dirty unspectacular work that most of the times goes un-noticed but has been crucial for us and could provide a very good pivot role. He isnt going to light up the tournament and score wonder goals but he can provide a vital cog in a well oiled machine.

when he got suspended we missed him badly.

This is a very good article about both Henderson and Ramsey

http://eplindex.com/53518/premier-leagues-improved-players-henderson-ramsey.html
 
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Only skim read the last few pages.

My take on things is this;

'96 Gazza was quite possibly at his peak, phenomenal player. How you lot never won that tourney is mind boggling to be perfectly honest.

This World Cup? Haven't saw much of England but having saw quite a bit of the EPL I'm actually looking forward to seeing how you get on, but imho you need to take a chance with the up and coming stars.

That's my 2 cents worth. :)
 
Henderson looked massively over priced when Liverpool signed him,but he's looking like a bit of a bargain now IMO.
Sorry but he's far from being a nothing player.
 
Not sure how you can judge the defence when like you said they weren't really put under too much pressure.

I agree Johnson is a weak link and he isn't as good at going forward as people like to think. All I see him do is cut inside and lose position. Heard someone mention he was a great 'false number 2'.

The fact they can look shaky when not under pressure is enough to concern me. There was some very ropey passing between the back four which was what caused what pressure we were put under. Against a better team that sloppiness will be punished.
 
Barkely and sterling I'd agree. But all this talk of Ox has been after one good game in a friendly.
I don't think he was in anybodies line up before that friendly. And I'm not sure he's done enough to get in the line up, especially with injury.

Id say sturridge, Rooney, Gerrard, Lallana and even a lampard punt are as likely to score from nowhere as the other threee

I think from last night Welbeck should be dropped in place of sterling or Barkely, other than that I'd go with the team we selected.

We always pin our hopes on the player who is injured. Last time wasn't it Gareth Barry of all people who would have been our saviour had he not been injured? Before that I think Rooney and Owen both went into tournaments injured.

The problem with England is that we put all our hopes on one player, put them up on some pedestal and slag them off when they fail to live up to the hype we created for them.

We have a team of Good players, nothing more. If they all play well we might get to the quarter final, if they don't we will no doubt pick one of them out to be the scapegoat (I suspect this time it will be Rooney)
 
On the world stage England do not have the players man to man to match the top four sides in the world. We're competitive at a second level of nations but even then not guaranteed to beat anyone. We simply lack quality and depth.
 
On the world stage England do not have the players man to man to match the top four sides in the world. We're competitive at a second level of nations but even then not guaranteed to beat anyone. We simply lack quality and depth.

I agree. I think player for player we can get out of the group and first round. After that we're underdogs in games.
 
Milner and Welbeck in the starting line up?

I hope to God you're wrong. That would be unbearable

I'd pick Welbeck, I thought he played very well last night!

Are Engerland home yet?

How does Henderson get in the squad? An awful footballer.

Him and Wellbeck are a waste of 2 plane tickets.

Him & Welbeck, according to the BBC website, were England's best two players last night.



Slime.
 
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