richy
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In a word......NO
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In a word......NO
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There is no competition for him at the moment - needs someone to challenge him. Not playing well at all
richy
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How do you rate Flanagan for the future being a Liverpool fan?
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Not sure - he is very solid defensively , really brave in the tackle but still a bit immature in terms of positionally sense but getting better. Going forward he doesnt have the pace and skill of other FB's but he puts in a great cross and can pick out a good pass - wouldnt call him an adventurous FB
He has been playing left back for us mainly and done a very good job and can see him being a good club player - not sure about international
dont particularly think Barkley was too outstanding. Gave it away more than his passes were succesful. Also played mainly against 10 players. I actually think the performance was ok. All our chances (3 golden) fell to sturridge and he missed them. Better now than in wc. Johnson still looks a liability, at appears all teams are targeting him. Same flanagan only on reserves list.
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Do you see Barkley as a threat to Lallana ?
The player is very highly rated by many and has been crucial to Everton doing so well this season but you appear to dismiss him or any positive talk of him
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That's the way Barkley is, he is still young and has a lot to learn but he has no fear at all and always wants the ball no matter who the opposition.
Barkley, OX and Sterling are the players that can win games from nothing.
Firstly ohil I watched the game, secondly. No I don't see him as a threat as Lallana will play wide and Barkely centrally. I have said Barkely looks a great prospect. But he does give the ball away a lot as he tries things. Martinez himself has said he tried to get Barkely away from his own half as errors could cost.
Im pro Rooney for the line up as your pro Barkely, yet I've not accused you of favourtism.
You dodnt watch the game, you asked how people payed and based your opinion on a bbc write up.
***edit. Just read review, unless bbc have to match reports. Barkley was described as lively and given a 6. Same as most of our attacking players. So how is it me showing bias?
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Barkely and sterling I'd agree. But all this talk of Ox has been after one good game in a friendly.
I don't think he was in anybodies line up before that friendly. And I'm not sure he's done enough to get in the line up, especially with injury.
Id say sturridge, Rooney, Gerrard, Lallana and even a lampard punt are as likely to score from nowhere as the other threee
I think from last night Welbeck should be dropped in place of sterling or Barkely, other than that I'd go with the team we selected.
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I'd be very surprised if Milner doesn't start v Italy.
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As i said anytime someone has mentioned Barkley with any sort of positivity its immediatly dismissed
And as for Martinez these are a couple of things he has said about him
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spor.../roberto-martinez-ross-barkley-should-7233258
http://talksport.com/football/martinez-phenomenal-barkley-ready-world-cup-14050489830
Plus multiple of reports of him from many other sources
Nothing about favourites but he is showing exactly what Gazza did just before WC90
Rooney is tried and tested and not worked and even the friendlies still not working - Barkley is.
Woy wont pick him - but then he wouldnt have picked Gazza WC90 or Owen WC98 - he doesnt take those risks , risks that need to be taken to do well in WC. Playing safe works over a league season when looking to keep a team in the prem but when you have 3 games and 3 games only you need to take the risks
When the Italy game comes around Woy will pick the tried and tested and it will be the shortcomings of England and thats a shame when there are so many talented youngsters in that squad that if picked could easily surprise a few.
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Me also.
Pin-seeker
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Can't see either team really going for it. 0-0 bore draw & both teams would be pretty happy with that.
richy
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Really? On what grounds? A poor display at right back
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Because he is the safe bet - can see him part of the three alonsgide Rooney and Wellbeck behind Sturridge
Remind me ho we won the world cup in italia 90, or 98? Those risks paid of big style phil?
Everytime this conversation comes up, i choose to prefer Rooney, you choose Barkely. It's not me having an agenda against barkley. If i'm proven wrong i'll hjold my hands up. And i;m not claiming that Rooney is the worlds best. But imo as ive already stated. I think whoever plays in the hole has to have a goals threat. From seeing barkely this year he may well score 1 wonder goal. But will he get 3 or 4? Rooney as you've shown has a poor wc record. But is stil a proven goalscorer and will i think show more of a threat.
Just because i disagree with you doesn't make me wrong, or vice versa. You dont always have to tyry and prove your point is the only point.
Whoever plays i'll wish well, but i dont think that being the next gazza is that special. Gazza would enterain greatly, but 90 aside, i dont remember him lighting a tournament up.
Read your two articles. Basically says Ross is our best prospect (i agree), and he should play his own game (i agree).
Also says that we shouldn't build him up too much either, but he;s being heralded as a saviour.
If woy starts with rooney we're doomed etc, show some courage blah blah.
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I think there'll be 20,000 remote controls and 40,000 pints thrown at the tv if it happens.
Barkley was playing more like a striker for me, he needs to come deeper and get on the ball more. It's the first time in years I've got genuinely excited when an England player gets the ball.
richy
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Milner and Welbeck in the starting line up?
I hope to God you're wrong. That would be unbearable
Beezerk
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Erm 96?
He was crocked for the rest or we didn't qualify, didn't Taylor also bottle it and didn't pick him against what he thought were "clogger" teams.
Again with England until Venables came in, we were afraid to build teams around our best talent.
I agree re milner, I don't think he will start though. If he does it may be in place of Hernderson just as someone to stick to pirlo. I think having watched the games and seen his selections.
Sturridge
Rooney
Lallana
Gerrard
are nailed on an then it'll be henderson or milner in middle and sterling/barkley/welbeck as lasat attacking option.
