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We weren't in Europe last year so what ifs have no relevance
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We weren't in Europe last year so what ifs have no relevance
richy
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Gerrard and the rest of the Liverpool players in the England squad played less games yet he was still tired and looked so. If Liverpool were in Europe he would of been even more tired due to the amount of games he'd of played.
Can't believe you couldn't work that one out for yourself
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But we weren't in Europe so it's not relevant dealing with "ifs".
He was tiring after 60 plus mins because he has played every game at mid 30's because he is still an important player for both his club and country
Beezerk
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Either way Gerrard should have come off after an hour.
Garesfield ACE
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Or IF Rooney had buried that chance to make it 2-2 (which he should of)........
Now the dust has settled and the hangover cleared, what did I think. I was actually pleased with the performance and definitely 7/10. On the downside I think Rooney has to play upfront or not at all and on last nights showing and the performances of others I'd say not at all in this formation.
Defensively they looked solid aside from that five minutes before half time and arguably a lack of cover on the second goal. Going forward there was some speed and cohesion and Costa Rica proved what I've said for a while that Uruguay just can't cope with that. I'd drop Rooney but I would keep Gerrard although he did struggle in the last 30 minutes and drifted out of it. I hope it was just the heat and humidity as he does need to be a 90 minute player or let a younger pair of legs start.
I do think we'll get a result against Uruguay although they won't be that bad again. A draw and a win in the last game should be enough providing Italy win their own games. If we do go out giving 7/10 performances and I won't be too upset as I saw enough last night to be optimistic for the future
Defensively they looked solid aside from that five minutes before half time and arguably a lack of cover on the second goal. Going forward there was some speed and cohesion and Costa Rica proved what I've said for a while that Uruguay just can't cope with that. I'd drop Rooney but I would keep Gerrard although he did struggle in the last 30 minutes and drifted out of it. I hope it was just the heat and humidity as he does need to be a 90 minute player or let a younger pair of legs start.
I do think we'll get a result against Uruguay although they won't be that bad again. A draw and a win in the last game should be enough providing Italy win their own games. If we do go out giving 7/10 performances and I won't be too upset as I saw enough last night to be optimistic for the future
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Isn't putting Sturridge left playing someone out of position also ?
SwingsitlikeHogan
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Good game. England weren't unlucky but didn't deserve to lose.
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DanFST
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My god I'm hungover.
Played well, if we play like that we will get through the group.
Played well, if we play like that we will get through the group.
Hacker Khan
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I kind of hoped tactics had moved on a bit from 'hit the big lad up front'. Probably works in Division 2 but not at international level nowadays. Wasn't that our main tactic in the last Euros where we created the square root of chuff all?
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My opinion on last nights game was we were good,and it was great to see youngsters get
there chance to show what they can do.
Sterling was fantastic and has a massive future for England.
Roy is brave giving the youngsters a chance in the biggest tournament of them all.
I agree with the people who say we have not got a chance of winning,not just that
we are not good enough,but the weather is just too hot for us.
Imo Rooney has to play but it has to be behind Sturridge or upfront and Sturridge
on the right.
Roy made a mistake putting Rooney out on the left,he absolutely hates it.
I played left midfield for 10 years and you have to be ultra fit as its box to box.
You have to be able to help your fullback and when you break you have to cross the
ball or be on the back post if the ball comes in from the right,Rooney cant defend and
he just isn't as fit as he once was.
Imo Lalana just falls short at this level and needs more friendly international experience,he
could be one for the future.
Gerrard could have been taken off,however I don't think that was ever going to happen.
Its a must win against Uruguay and I really hope Suarez is still injured or I believe we will be out.
Roy has to be brave and make tough decisions,i certainly wouldn't like to be in his shoes,but its
better to go out all guns blazing than out with a whimper.
there chance to show what they can do.
Sterling was fantastic and has a massive future for England.
Roy is brave giving the youngsters a chance in the biggest tournament of them all.
I agree with the people who say we have not got a chance of winning,not just that
we are not good enough,but the weather is just too hot for us.
Imo Rooney has to play but it has to be behind Sturridge or upfront and Sturridge
on the right.
Roy made a mistake putting Rooney out on the left,he absolutely hates it.
I played left midfield for 10 years and you have to be ultra fit as its box to box.
You have to be able to help your fullback and when you break you have to cross the
ball or be on the back post if the ball comes in from the right,Rooney cant defend and
he just isn't as fit as he once was.
Imo Lalana just falls short at this level and needs more friendly international experience,he
could be one for the future.
Gerrard could have been taken off,however I don't think that was ever going to happen.
Its a must win against Uruguay and I really hope Suarez is still injured or I believe we will be out.
Roy has to be brave and make tough decisions,i certainly wouldn't like to be in his shoes,but its
better to go out all guns blazing than out with a whimper.
drawboy
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Overpaid overthere primadonnas.....Cramp, chuffing cramp!! I played Sunday league for 6 years, never had cramp once, maybe had a touch of it after my 5th pint afterwards but only in the wallet. These lot need to leave the comfort blankets and "Bitty" at home and go play football for their country. Pirlo could have played in carpet slippers. Why was he not clattered? Put him up in the air and we could have had a chance but we let him dominate the pace of the game. Come home you useless bunch of halfwitts, why drag it out another week, get the tail between the legs and crawl back to your cushy Chesire lifestyles.
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Well the weather and atmosphere is a bit different in the amazon jungle to a Sunday league in the UK as well as the pace of the game
And putting Pirlo "in the air" would prob end up with a red card or at least a yellow to leave someone walking a tightrope !
He needed closing down and someone around him but they sat deep
drawboy
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Granted but he has too much class to be allowed unlimited time on the ball. The bloke never even had to look up before he got the ball, he knew exactly where it was going. Our lot in contrast looked like headless chickens at times. Oh and another thing I doubt that Terry would have allowed their first goal. He would have closed that down. The guy had time to pack himself up for the coach trip to the hotel before he hit that ball...Eveyone stood off him. Cramp!! don't get me started that is for extra time in a 1980's wembly final...ooo, me leg hurts ref, big girls blouses.
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England have conceded goals with Terry on the pitch as well
They had all day long to throw crosses into the box because again we sat off and didn't press and close down
And cramp is going to happen when doing exercise is extreme humid and hot conditions - some of the Italians suffered from it
It's bloody painful when it happens
HawkeyeMS
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Sorry, I meant Sterling
