England Football Team - managers job

[pbrown7582]

As there's such a dearth of top quality candidates I'd probably go with Bruce in the short term, with Neville and Shearer on the staff. If the players won't play for some of the most decorated players of the modern English era, then it won't much matter who you appoint as the players aren't mentally strong enough to compete at the highest level.

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[sawtooth]

How on earth can you possibly expext us to take club loyalty out of it when you choose wenger.

I'd go pardew. I want an Englishmen in charge so I won't bother listed who I'd prefer, but Klopp, Pep, Jose, Simione, Koeman, Enrique are just a few that any club would take over Arsene in the future imo

We are not talking about any club though we are talking England. So you would take any of those over someone who has worked in the premier league for years?

 

[Papas1982]

We are not talking about any club though we are talking England. So you would take any of those over someone who has worked in the premier league for years?

Yes. If I had to go for a foreign manager I would go for a winner. Someone who upsets the odds occasionally and out performs his opponents. We her in the last decade hasn't done anything unexpected. You've had the fourth best squad and constantly finished 4th.

He hardly plays and English players and his fabled excellence with youth has dwindled too. I totally get why arsenal fans love him. But, I wouldn't want him anywhere near England. If I was on the spot and had to use your criteria then it would be Jose. He knows England well enough and wins more

 

[Hickory_Hacker]

Played one won one ... It's difficult to feel sorry for the greedy 2 faced git but I've got to hand it to the English press guys, when you want a story then ching ching how easy was that :rofl:

Who's in the running for the job now?

 

[User62651]

You obviously don't understand how investigative journalism works do you?

Allardyce only has himself to blame, he had the dream job earning £3m per year and through greed has lost the lot.

I suspect him and his agent will be parting company.

Undertstand just fine ta, this isn't investigative journalism, just a naff sting or entrapment set up by these journos with nothing better to do than get Allardyce in trouble. Hardly investigative when they're setting it up themselves! Allardyce won't be subject to any kind of criminal proceedings it's only newsworthy for some tittle tattle, expect most managers and their agents are 'at it' like this.

 

[Tashyboy]

Looks like nigel Pearson from derby could be available

 

[Hacker Khan]

Undertstand just fine ta, this isn't investigative journalism, just a naff sting or entrapment set up by these journos with nothing better to do than get Allardyce in trouble. Hardly investigative when they're setting it up themselves! Allardyce won't be subject to any kind of criminal proceedings it's only newsworthy for some tittle tattle, expect most managers and their agents are 'at it' like this.

They were following up to get hard evidence on information they had already received. It was not a random fishing operation. All they were doing was holding him to account, which you would have hoped the FA would do but obviously not.

 

[pbrown7582]

They were following up to get hard evidence on information they had already received. It was not a random fishing operation. All they were doing was holding him to account, which you would have hoped the FA would do but obviously not.

Exactly they were given names and followed through for an accurate story this was allegedly not a one off.

 

[Hobbit]

We are not talking about any club though we are talking England. So you would take any of those over someone who has worked in the premier league for years?

Sean, are you trolling or do you actually, genuinely, believe that Wenger's the man?

Pretty much everyone else appears to be open minded to several candidates, including foreign managers. Can you not see you're in a majority of one. Surely, if so many people are saying no but are open to others you've got to ask yourself why is it only me saying this?

 

[sawtooth]

Sean, are you trolling or do you actually, genuinely, believe that Wenger's the man?

Pretty much everyone else appears to be open minded to several candidates, including foreign managers. Can you not see you're in a majority of one. Surely, if so many people are saying no but are open to others you've got to ask yourself why is it only me saying this?

Not trolling by having Wenger for my foreign pick mate. Of course there are other great foreign candidates but still prefer to see an Englishman in charge anyhow.

 

[Golfmmad]

The England Manager should always be English! If we did win the World Cup or the Euro's with a non Englishman at the helm there would always be the comments of, "You could only win with a Foreign Manager". No, he has to be English.

I agree with Sawtooth's view with Hoddle. But first of all, his comments(Hoddle's) about the Disabled were very wrong, however, he's older and wiser now and deserves a second chance - everybody does.

The England manager needs to instil discipline and respect amongst the players and show strong leadership. Hoddle certainly did that when dealing with Paul Gascoine at the '98 World Cup. It's been said that England footballers do not show the desire and hunger playing for their Country. Hoddle would ensure that every player give their all, or they would be out, just as Gascoine was.

Cast your mind back, Hoddle with England was very clever and always looking for an edge over the opposition. Everybody was clamouring for Michael Owen to play - well, he didn't start until the Argentinian game - what a relevation, that was the edge he wanted, the Argies knew little about him. It was only Batistuta that craftily got Beckham sent off that stopped us from winning that game.

He has no experience in the "Modern game", what a load of tosh! It's not rocket science - you don't suddenly lose football knowledge by being out of management for 16 plus years. He's kept in touch with all aspects of the game, that's all he knows and cares about.

I remember months and months before the '98 World Cup, he had people checking facilities and everything to do with necessary preparations needed, accommodation, training, activities etc etc. He would play mind games with opposing Managers by not announcing or even changing his teams before games - to get that edge.

Give him another go I say!

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[Deleted member 15344]

The England Manager should always be English! If we did win the World Cup or the Euro's with a non Englishman at the helm there would always be the comments of, "You could only win with a Foreign Manager". No, he has to be English.

I agree with Sawtooth's view with Hoddle. But first of all, his comments(Hoddle's) about the Disabled were very wrong, however, he's older and wiser now and deserves a second chance - everybody does.

The England manager needs to instil discipline and respect amongst the players and show strong leadership. Hoddle certainly did that when dealing with Paul Gascoine at the '98 World Cup. It's been said that England footballers do not show the desire and hunger playing for their Country. Hoddle would ensure that every player give their all, or they would be out, just as Gascoine was.

Cast your mind back, Hoddle with England was very clever and always looking for an edge over the opposition. Everybody was clamouring for Michael Owen to play - well, he didn't start until the Argentinian game - what a relevation, that was the edge he wanted, the Argies knew little about him. It was only Batistuta that craftily got Beckham sent off that stopped us from winning that game.

He has no experience in the "Modern game", what a load of tosh! It's not rocket science - you don't suddenly lose football knowledge by being out of management for 16 plus years. He's kept in touch with all aspects of the game, that's all he knows and cares about.

I remember months and months before the '98 World Cup, he had people checking facilities and everything to do with necessary preparations needed, accommodation, training, activities etc etc. He would play mind games with opposing Managers by not announcing or even changing his teams before games - to get that edge.

Give him another go I say!

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Your view of the WC 98 seems to be a different

He was that clever during the WC he kept Owen out of the line up they managed to lose against Romania which was a big reason they had to play against Argentina in the first place and because Owen come on and gave a bit of a lifeline against Romania pressure forced him to start him in the next match against Colombia

And it was Simeone who was involved in the Beckham sending off and it doesn't matter about all the "ifs" - can only deal in what actually happened

What about the poor Euro campaign after that ?

And then what about his three subsequent managerial jobs after that where he flopped ?

 

[chrisd]

I'd rather Hoddle than any foreign manager

 

[Golfmmad]

Your view of the WC 98 seems to be a different

He was that clever during the WC he kept Owen out of the line up they managed to lose against Romania which was a big reason they had to play against Argentina in the first place and because Owen come on and gave a bit of a lifeline against Romania pressure forced him to start him in the next match against Colombia

And it was Simeone who was involved in the Beckham sending off and it doesn't matter about all the "ifs" - can only deal in what actually happened

What about the poor Euro campaign after that ?

And then what about his three subsequent managerial jobs after that where he flopped ?

Sorry my bad, it was Simione.

I'm not really interested in his subsequent managerial posts, this is England management, a whole different ball game, and one in which he is very good at.

 

[Blue in Munich]

They were following up to get hard evidence on information they had already received. It was not a random fishing operation. All they were doing was holding him to account, which you would have hoped the FA would do but obviously not.

Fully agree with this bit. The 2 questions I'd like answered is how long have they known, and why now?

 

[Deleted member 16999]

I'd rather Hoddle than any foreign manager

I'd rather have Hodgson or McClaren back than Hoddle.
Serious though, why hasn't a Championship team or PL team come in for him if he has so much to offer?

 

[Deleted member 1740]

I'd rather have Hodgson or McClaren back than Hoddle.
Serious though, why hasn't a Championship team or PL team come in for him if he has so much to offer?

Probably his previous would be the main issue.

He does talk a good game and is highly respected football wise amongst the media.

The next England manager should be the best available regardless of nationality.

 

[Golfmmad]

I'd rather have Hodgson or McClaren back than Hoddle.
Serious though, why hasn't a Championship team or PL team come in for him if he has so much to offer?

Maybe they have, and he was not interested - happy where he is at the moment and holding out for a call sometime in the future.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Sorry my bad, it was Simione.

I'm not really interested in his subsequent managerial posts, this is England management, a whole different ball game, and one in which he is very good at.

Very good at ? A manager is judged by his results

Out in the first KO round of the WC and had to go via a playoff in the Euros after being beaten by Sweden isn't the results of someone very good - Hodgson had better qualifying record

Hoddle has done nothing in over a decade for a reason

Championing people like Hoddle and Sam and Hodgson is the reason why England will amount to nothing on the big stage

Both the cricket teams and Rugby teams understood that you don't need an Englishman in charge to succeed you just need the right person regardless of nationality

Having the first requirement being English is straight away dropping the level of managers available

 

[sawtooth]

Sorry my bad, it was Simione.

I'm not really interested in his subsequent managerial posts, this is England management, a whole different ball game, and one in which he is very good at.

I agree mate and that was then at 40 yrs old, he is at a better age now and won't be joining in and showing off in training like he used to!

What he said was in bad taste but many believe that he was harshly treated by the FA and I for one would like him to have another go.

Why not a short term contract to take us up to the 2018 WC? He is available and could start tomorrow.