England Football Team - managers job
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ColchesterFC
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Your comment has already been proved incorrect by two posters before you LP. Just because it wouldn't matter to you doesn't mean you can force that opinion onto others who clearly have a different view.
freddielong
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To be fair Liverpoolphil said people not all people so his comments haven't been proved to be incorrect, I for one wouldn't care where the manager was from we are limited to the players we can pick why make things harder by limiting the manager as well
Best man for the job surely irrespective of nationality. Whether that person would actually want it with all the baggage and crap that comes with it is another issue.
Beezerk
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The brand of football played by the U21's is worse than the senior team, and that takes some doing.
USER1999
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At least they don't have to shoe horn Rooney into the team though.
Hacker Khan
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Think this commonly held view that the England football team manger must be English is utter nonsense, take a look at the Rugby Union team, they've gone for an Aussie who has transformed Englands fortunes in a very short time to be the second top side in the world, pushing for top. You go for the every best coach available, what nationality they are is irrelevant. If Guardiola was available you'd have to be insane not to take him for England manager. Klopp would be a good appointment too....imo.
Wenger would be a poor poor choice imo, he does not inspire, sorry.
Wenger would be a poor poor choice imo, he does not inspire, sorry.
Both cricket and rugby have both openly accepted people with dubious links to a nation to play for them too. In football it's yet to really happen. So whilst I fully accept that guadiola would do a better job than any English option. I still don't want him too do the job.
sawtooth
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You're missing the point. Foreign is considered wrong by some because it's the ENGLAND national team not because they wouldn't.be any good.
For me it's no different to playing German or Spanish players, The manager and back room staff are integral parts of the England team.
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Total & utter tosh!!
The U21's play with a greater sense of purpose and individuals have a clear understanding of their personal role and responsibilities.
Am bias but I think Southgate may give Jwp a chance in full squad soon. Immense deadball and great range of passing. Never let's the u21 down.
Can't believe be doesn't start for us at St Mary's.
Can't believe be doesn't start for us at St Mary's.
sawtooth
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Problem with people is that they forget how good the players were at Barca and Bayern. We don't have them in England.
The Icelandic manager would be a better bet. Now theres someone who really does know how to make the most of what he has.
Tongo
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I dunno about rugby but with the cricket it was a case that England had better players and players who could play a different style in limited overs cricket; its just they werent being selected. Look at how players like Jason Roy and David Willey came into the ODI and T20 teams and made a difference.
Does the England football team have better players not being selected? I dont think so.
Some will highlight how England's cricket team has players like Roy who were born abroad. This also happens in Football. Check out the German, French and Belgian squads, for instance at the last Euros. the only country where players are born elsewhere seems to be England. Make of that what you will.
I gues it comes down to what you as a fan want.
Me, I want English players playing their best. If that's not good enough I'll accept it. I can honestly say that I would not want England's top scoring World Cup striker to be polish. The Germans seem happy with it and good luck to em, but it's not for me.
So when I watch the cricket I still want England to win. And Pieterson was one of my fav to watch for his style and entertainment, but it doesn't have me gripped as much, doesn't give me the same pleasure as when the football team do well as I bieleice it's tainted. Only my opinion, but one that I know others share.
Tongo
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I think its more than just players being poached from other countries. Modern day demographics dictate that people move around more; the advent of the EU and no borders has probably meant people are born in one country and move to another. This is the world we live in.
Anyhow, Terry Butcher was born in Singapore, John Barnes in Jamaica, Owen Hargreaves in Canada......
#justsayin
I accept that many move around, but IMO the comparisons are far apart. If you adopt a country you've lived in as a child that's totally different to choosing a country as an adult for a perceived benefit.
Allowing people pled to live and work in a country is something I fully support. But IMO opinion representing your country should be the greatest source of pride and I can't imagine feeling the same desire to represent I'd merely soent a few years in for work.
Up to a point I see the analogy and I think Coleman and Wales fit that as well. I think there is still this air, especially in FA press, media and with some fans that we are better than we are and that we should almost qualify and do things as some kind of historic right. It doesn't work that way and the sooner those running the game in particular realise we need a man with an air of realism the better. I tend to think we'd be better served with a foreign manager not indoctrinated on this belief of how good we think we are and one that picks the best team possible and more importantly gets the most from them
USER1999
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Tony Cascarino? As Irish as a very non Irish person.
Tashyboy
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So Gareth Southgate has got the managers job, one of his first comments was to say he wants the " all blacks " rugby team to be an example of how to perform with there kind of attitude to winning.
Gareth, the all blacks and New Zealand rugby at the moment is stuttering from one controversy to another, and at the moment is not a shining example of how to run a sport.
Having said that, good luck.
Gareth, the all blacks and New Zealand rugby at the moment is stuttering from one controversy to another, and at the moment is not a shining example of how to run a sport.
Having said that, good luck.
