Dropping the ego

G_Mulligan

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Ok firstly I don't mean playing with a chip on your shoulder or being an arrogant person or golfer necessarily. By ego I mean focussed on results. Do you dwell on your score, your results and those of other golfers? Do you care more about how others perceive you as a golfer than perhaps you do yourself? Can you enjoy a game of golf without playing well or even while playing badly? Do you get embarrassed and frustrated by poor shots/holes/rounds?

This was me. I started to fall out of love with golf about 10 weeks ago. My scores were not coming down, I was trying to avoid mistakes especially when playing in comps with strangers. I felt constantly judged by other golfers especially doing what I do and yet having such a high handicap. I made a 2-3 week neck injury last 8 weeks. I stopped coming on this very forum because I was sick of being judged (real and imagined) based on that bloody number that defined me as a golfer.

Last week I went out in a comp with two players I have never me before I shot 102 of the indigo's over the round I lost three balls oob, one in the water and shot a 12 on the par 5 17th with 4 shots from one bunker. I can honestly say I have never ever enjoyed golf more. I no longer cared what they thought, I no longer cared about my short term score on any given day. I have spent the last month reading and absorbing everything I can find on Flow, Kaizen, Mindfulness and anything and everything else I can get my hands on in that area. The most important thing I have learned is that Mastery beats Ego in the long run.

Mastery orientated people care about the process of long term improvement not quick fixes and short term scores. A mastery mindset will insulate you from what others think and having to impress. Mastery will make your practice sessions far more focussed and effective and your golf way way more enjoyable. Golf has this overwhelming undeniable yard stick that follows you everywhere. What is the first question you get asked by other golfers or friends/family members after a round..."how did you play?" followed in a close second by "What did you shoot?" What do people ask when they find out you are a golfer "What is your handicap?" The ego trap in laid everywhere and you must make a conscious decision to ignore it.

In a separate thread someone was asking if something another golfer was trying had worked, had it reduced his or anyone else's handicap. Someone else claimed they were gullable suckers wasting money and yet another called it 'guff'. His reply was an almost perfect reply of a mastery mindset. His handicap has gone up but he did not avoid the question. He is enjoying golf more than ever and more importantly enjoying the process of long term improvement. He is dedicated to this new way of thinking and playing and confident it will work in the long run. I would wish him luck but he genuinely does not need it.
 
Sorry I have read that twice now and still struggling to grasp your point ?

Are you saying someone who is not scoring well and handicap is going up but enjoying the process of long term improvement ( how do you know it's long term improvement as opposed to just a natural level reached ) has some sort of "master mindset" ?

How do you judge improvement in golf ? Scores ? HC ? Are they not markers to be used ?

And how long is long term ? 3 months ? 6 months ? 9 months ?
 
Sorry I have read that twice now and still struggling to grasp your point ?

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Phew , thank God for that ha ha
YES im focused on results because for me golf is about handicap and that is controlled by results ,other peolpes scores only bother me when i know they are artificially minding their handicaps and like today shoot 49pts or nett 59, coz cheating bothers me ,

i get frustrated by bad golf , i know my ability and im frustrated when i dont play to it or better ..

embarrassed ? nope because i dont care what others think of my game or ability
 
Sorry I have read that twice now and still struggling to grasp your point ?

Are you saying someone who is not scoring well and handicap is going up but enjoying the process of long term improvement ( how do you know it's long term improvement as opposed to just a natural level reached ) has some sort of "master mindset" ?

How do you judge improvement in golf ? Scores ? HC ? Are they not markers to be used ?

And how long is long term ? 3 months ? 6 months ? 9 months ?

Ah, little grasshopper... surely improvement is what YOU deem it to be. You can lower your handicap, you can win comps, you can hit great shots. But if you are not enjoying it, just what is the point? Surely, mastering your ego is about not caring about those markers.
 
Ah, little grasshopper... surely improvement is what YOU deem it to be. You can lower your handicap, you can win comps, you can hit great shots. But if you are not enjoying it, just what is the point? Surely, mastering your ego is about not caring about those markers.


Understand people can use different markers to judge improvements

But I can't understand why someone who uses the scoring or HC to be judged to have an ego ?

I know i don't have an ego when it comes to golf - just enjoy hitting the white thing regardless of score but I certainly know that when my golf improves then the scores get better

If it's a golf improvement then what else can be used be a marker than scores or HC or some sort of stat in the game ?
 
Sorry I have read that twice now and still struggling to grasp your point ?

Are you saying someone who is not scoring well and handicap is going up but enjoying the process of long term improvement ( how do you know it's long term improvement as opposed to just a natural level reached ) has some sort of "master mindset" ?

How do you judge improvement in golf ? Scores ? HC ? Are they not markers to be used ?

And how long is long term ? 3 months ? 6 months ? 9 months ?

I don't believe in natural levels they are just self imposed limitations, perhaps with good reason due to time constraints and other commitments but self imposed none the less. Yes long term can be 3 months, 6 months, 9 months 1 year, 2 years, 5 years depending on your ultimate goal and current situation. A mastery mindset is about going through that process and not falling into the ego trap of short term gains, being honest with yourself about your game and your practice regime and not making excuses and blaming bad luck.

Most importantly yes it is very possible to enjoy playing badly and scoring poorly if you see it as feedback. The game is letting you know exactly what you need to practice to improve. On saturday I took 4 shots to get out of a bunker, i left the hole smiling because I knew golf had just told me to make a real effort to study mt bunker technique and to practice bunker shots. On Tuesday I 3 putted 12 holes and 4 putted once the next day I went to the course knowing I needed to practice my putting and try to figure out what went wrong. It was a challenge and I was relishing the opportunity to figure out what I might be doing wrong and what i can do to improve it.
 
I don't believe in natural levels they are just self imposed limitations, perhaps with good reason due to time constraints and other commitments but self imposed none the less. Yes long term can be 3 months, 6 months, 9 months 1 year, 2 years, 5 years depending on your ultimate goal and current situation. A mastery mindset is about going through that process and not falling into the ego trap of short term gains, being honest with yourself about your game and your practice regime and not making excuses and blaming bad luck.

Most importantly yes it is very possible to enjoy playing badly and scoring poorly if you see it as feedback. The game is letting you know exactly what you need to practice to improve. On saturday I took 4 shots to get out of a bunker, i left the hole smiling because I knew golf had just told me to make a real effort to study mt bunker technique and to practice bunker shots. On Tuesday I 3 putted 12 holes and 4 putted once the next day I went to the course knowing I needed to practice my putting and try to figure out what went wrong. It was a challenge and I was relishing the opportunity to figure out what I might be doing wrong and what i can do to improve it.


So what about people who don't want toy think about all the nonsense - just go out and hit the ball , no practise , no "range work" etc etc and enjoy when they play well and enjoy good scoring but find they just enjoy playing the game because at the end of the day this isn't our job - we don't rely on it to make a living - it's a pastime.

We are amatuer handicap golfers at the end of the day - just enjoy the game without all this "mastery mindset" "ego" "long term process" ?!?

And yes there will be natural ability levels of people - it happens in all walks of sport and indeed life
 
Ah, little grasshopper... surely improvement is what YOU deem it to be. You can lower your handicap, you can win comps, you can hit great shots. But if you are not enjoying it, just what is the point? Surely, mastering your ego is about not caring about those markers.

Understand people can use different markers to judge improvements

But I can't understand why someone who uses the scoring or HC to be judged to have an ego ?

I know i don't have an ego when it comes to golf - just enjoy hitting the white thing regardless of score but I certainly know that when my golf improves then the scores get better

If it's a golf improvement then what else can be used be a marker than scores or HC or some sort of stat in the game ?

That is a very good point Hobbit.

sorry if I was unclear I know the op was a bit rambling. Yes if your ultimate goal is to improve then of course the handicap is a marker of that improvement, however, that is a long term side effect of doing the right things, practicing the right way, and thinking better both on the range and on the course. By only focussing on your handicap or on the days score you can miss the bigger picture. For example what i am working on has turned my controllable slice/fade into a snap hook. If i was focussed only on my score yesterday I might have tried to drop the swing changes I have made in an effort to keep my ball in play and guide it round for 30 (ish) points then go home frustrated. Instead I stuck with it confident in my long term process and the swing changes. I hit some of the crispest iron shots I have ever made and on the 14th I hit a draw with my driver 260 yards. I have never hit a draw in my life. Yes I snap hooked 3 of the next 4 holes with hybrid or driver and sliced the other (without playing for it) but that one shot is what I have been looking for and backed up what I already knew was that i am now on the right path for long term success.
 
The bigger picture is to enjoy playing the sport - how people find that enjoyment will be different

The game isn't complicated - hit the white ball , walk after it then hit it again

Path , long terms , focussing etc etc it's all just too much words and too much thinking
 
So what about people who don't want toy think about all the nonsense - just go out and hit the ball , no practise , no "range work" etc etc and enjoy when they play well and enjoy good scoring but find they just enjoy playing the game because at the end of the day this isn't our job - we don't rely on it to make a living - it's a pastime.

We are amatuer handicap golfers at the end of the day - just enjoy the game without all this "mastery mindset" "ego" "long term process" ?!?

And yes there will be natural ability levels of people - it happens in all walks of sport and indeed life

Then they can. Go do it. What is stopping them? It is more about not beating yourself up when you don't play well. I would hope all golfers would enjoy the game when playinh well although I have seen some who don't look like they are, not really, certainly not smiling or sounding happy.

If you are honest about your game when playing badly and can say well I just don't have the time or inclination to practice so I will just enjoy my golf then brilliant they are already there.

With regards to natural ability I know your belief from previous conversations and you may remember mine. Neither of us are going to convince the other so probably nothing to be gained from trying.
 
The bigger picture is to enjoy playing the sport - how people find that enjoyment will be different

The game isn't complicated - hit the white ball , walk after it then hit it again

Path , long terms , focussing etc etc it's all just too much words and too much thinking

A little thinking away from the course about how you play, how you can improve and planning range sessions is actually all about not thinking too much on the course and focussing on the wrong things.
 
A little thinking away from the course about how you play, how you can improve and planning range sessions is actually all about not thinking too much on the course and focussing on the wrong things.

Or just go out and hit the ball and enjoy it for what it is - a social pastime for us

Once the game is finished you then carry on your normal life - certainly don't "plan" range sessions.
 
and if you can't? If you do dwell on poor shots and bad scores, lost matches and blown comps? What if you do really want to improve, practice and have lessons but just don't get any better?

If you can go out hit a ball enjoy it whatever your score then what is the problem? Go do it. But what about other people who can't?
 
and if you can't? If you do dwell on poor shots and bad scores, lost matches and blown comps? What if you do really want to improve, practice and have lessons but just don't get any better?

Learn to realise that you have reached your level - learn to realise it's just a hobby that we play for fun

If you can go out hit a ball enjoy it whatever your score then what is the problem? Go do it. But what about other people who can't?

There isn't a problem - just don't get this "ego" that is being suggest about some people who likes good scores or who uses scores as a marker

We are all going to have poor rounds , shots , weeks of golf - we aren't pros we are amateurs

Surely people must realise that.
 
Learn to realise that you have reached your level - learn to realise it's just a hobby that we play for fun



There isn't a problem - just don't get this "ego" that is being suggest about some people who likes good scores or who uses scores as a marker

We are all going to have poor rounds , shots , weeks of golf - we aren't pros we are amateurs

Surely people must realise that.

Do you have kids? Nephews or Nieces? God children or anything like that? Is that what you (would) teach them, to realise when they have reached there level and stop trying? You say learn to realise you are playing for fun but how exactly do you do that other than by telling them over and over again? What if they don't want to settle for that and want to be the best golfer they can be.

As I said at the top I am not using the word ego in the normal sense of calling someone arrogant or walking around showing off about their scores or their trophies (although some do).

You don't seem to like anyone thinking differently to you, approaching the game differently or wanting something from golf that you don't. You seem to take it as a personal affront that there might be another way improving or enjoying the game than the way you found.
 
I let my nieces and nephews enjoy themselves regardless of what they are doing

Never said anything about stop trying but surely if the improvement isnt happening then a level has been reached - everyone reaches their peak at some point. Maybe if people realise they have reached a peak they could then deal with playing to that level and enjoy it more

I just believe far too many take the game too seriously and think far too much about everything and should just enjoy it all for what it is - a sport we play as a hobby when not working
 
Do you have kids? Nephews or Nieces? God children or anything like that? Is that what you (would) teach them, to realise when they have reached there level and stop trying? You say learn to realise you are playing for fun but how exactly do you do that other than by telling them over and over again? What if they don't want to settle for that and want to be the best golfer they can be.

As I said at the top I am not using the word ego in the normal sense of calling someone arrogant or walking around showing off about their scores or their trophies (although some do).

You don't seem to like anyone thinking differently to you, approaching the game differently or wanting something from golf that you don't. You seem to take it as a personal affront that there might be another way improving or enjoying the game than the way you found.

I'm not into your particular learning method - I have my own that suits me fairly well and is purely personal!

But some of our observations concur! :whistle:
 
I let my nieces and nephews enjoy themselves regardless of what they are doing

Never said anything about stop trying but surely if the improvement isnt happening then a level has been reached - everyone reaches their peak at some point. Maybe if people realise they have reached a peak they could then deal with playing to that level and enjoy it more

I just believe far too many take the game too seriously and think far too much about everything and should just enjoy it all for what it is - a sport we play as a hobby when not working

Have I reached my level, improvement was not happening so should I have just accepted it? That is much easier to say when playing off 5 compared to 25. We are actually making the same point is one respect but from different view points. I want people to go out and enjoy themselves and not play or practice like it is their job and not a hobby. Where we differ though is in accepting that some people want to improve, there are many posts that attest to this all over this forum. If a level has been reached and scores plateau then of course you have two choices accept that and deal with it like you said or try something different if you really want to keep going and keep improving. Whichever route you choose is not right or wrong it is a personal choice and both can be as equally fulfilling if approached in the right way.
 
Or just go out and hit the ball and enjoy it for what it is - a social pastime for us

Once the game is finished you then carry on your normal life - certainly don't "plan" range sessions.

I don't subscribe to the "one size fits all" that you seem so keen on. Some people play as you do, others focus(plan) their range time, and others read Karl Morris or Alan Fine or Dave Pelz.

Just what is wrong with someone else approaching the game in a different way to the way you approach it? Why are you so right, and someone else so wrong?

If something different works for someone else, brilliant! I might not agree that its for me but I do think it has a place in the game.
 
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