Dress standards at the Club

[richart]

The only rule I've got an issue with is the one against sandals with no socks. I can wear my Birkenstocks at my place with no socks which is good. Otherwise if I wear my shorts I have to sport a short/sock/brogue combo and look like an extra from 'it ain't half hot mum' (one for the kids)

I still can believe a grown up would wear a football shirt for any other reason except playing football.

On our dress code it rules against facial piercings, I wonder if this has ever been enforced??

I can't believe anyone would want to wear sandals. Are you a closet hippie ? What are Birkenstocks ? Sounds like something for restraining people that live near Liverpool.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

I need to convince HID that a trip to Dorset is needed. Mind! She is a fair striker of the ball so maybe I could get her to come along :cheers:

She is very welcome to join us :thup:

 

[In_The_Rough]

I used the word scum ITR, because thats the impression some people on here have of people who might want to discuss change, and have a constructive debate on what the problems are facing golf to-day.
As i've said, i've accepted the current climate in clubs, but then i already play. How do we attract new golfers??
Perception is very important, and if golf is percieved to be elitist then we have a problem, and stuffy dress codes frankly do nowt to aswage that perception imo.

Golf is still fairly elitist as it is not cheap to play, not as elitist as it once was but the stigma is still there. Stuffy dress codes I agree with you 100% does golf no favours however I still maintain that there should be a certain rules regarding what you can and cannot wear out on the course, what colour socks you wear is not one of them, I personally think golf shorts and socks look daft but have no problem in people wearing them. Straight question here: what do you wear when you go to play golf at your home course and away courses and do you think the dress codes at your place are strict or not

 

[User20205]

I can't believe anyone would want to wear sandals. Are you a closet hippie ? What are Birkenstocks ? Sounds like something for restraining people that live near Liverpool.

Get yourself some rich, it's liberating. You could easily pull off the geography teacher look! You've already got the hair

 

[blackpuddinmonster]

My apologies to the OP for going slightly of topic.
In answer to your question, absolutly not, its not my place to tell another adult or junior for that matter how they should dress.
And for all those people chunnering to themselves about rules is rules, i take it you never brake the speed limit, never park on double yellows, and always keep to the left on motorways to name just a few of the often flouted rules/laws today.
After all that would be hypocritical wouldn't it??

 

[blackpuddinmonster]

Golf is still fairly elitist as it is not cheap to play, not as elitist as it once was but the stigma is still there. Stuffy dress codes I agree with you 100% does golf no favours however I still maintain that there should be a certain rules regarding what you can and cannot wear out on the course, what colour socks you wear is not one of them, I personally think golf shorts and socks look daft but have no problem in people wearing them. Straight question here: what do you wear when you go to play golf at your home course and away courses and do you think the dress codes at your place are strict or not

At my home course the dress code is pretty relaxed. You can't wear denim jeans on the course, but then i never would, too hot in the warm and totally useless in the wet. I usually wear canvas jean type trousers in the cooler temps with me SD tops, and a cargo type short in the sun.
In the clubhouse, because we have a lot of private functions, pretty much anything you would find in your local, ecept spikes of course.
On the odd occasion i play somewhere else then its keks and polo. After all its their club and if i think its too stuffy then i'l just play me game and have a drink and something to eat somewhere i'am more relaxed.
When it comes to golf ITR i play in what most people would consider fairly bog standard attire. My problem with dress codes is perception. If someone wants to play in a t shirt, whats the problem? It doesn't affect my enjoyment of the game at all.
I agree with you it is still quite elitist and fairly expensive. When i was deciding weather to join a club or not value for money was a major factor. I looked at the price of my season ticket for the footy and the associated extras(program, couple of pies, a few pints) and the cost of membership, and the golf was not only cheaper it seamed better value for money, so the footy had to go i'am afraid. Someday i might be able to afford both, someday....

 

[Pin-seeker]

Get yourself some rich, it's liberating. You could easily pull off the geography teacher look! You've already got the hair

You've obviously got a problem with a grown man wearing a football shirt (as you've mentioned it more than once) yet you are quite proud to admit to the masses to wearing these
It's a crazy world :rofl:

 

[In_The_Rough]

At my home course the dress code is pretty relaxed. You can't wear denim jeans on the course, but then i never would, too hot in the warm and totally useless in the wet. I usually wear canvas jean type trousers in the cooler temps with me SD tops, and a cargo type short in the sun.
In the clubhouse, because we have a lot of private functions, pretty much anything you would find in your local, ecept spikes of course.
On the odd occasion i play somewhere else then its keks and polo. After all its their club and if i think its too stuffy then i'l just play me game and have a drink and something to eat somewhere i'am more relaxed.
When it comes to golf ITR i play in what most people would consider fairly bog standard attire. My problem with dress codes is perception. If someone wants to play in a t shirt, whats the problem? It doesn't affect my enjoyment of the game at all.
I agree with you it is still quite elitist and fairly expensive. When i was deciding weather to join a club or not value for money was a major factor. I looked at the price of my season ticket for the footy and the associated extras(program, couple of pies, a few pints) and the cost of membership, and the golf was not only cheaper it seamed better value for money, so the footy had to go i'am afraid. Someday i might be able to afford both, someday....

Are you a Bury fan then? If so we beat you 2-0 yesterday:ears: The footy is a lot more expensive than people think at lower level, ours is quite expensive really but then again we do have a brand new stadium with all the extras and we have possibly the top wage bill in the division if rumours are true after our summer splurge. If the club allows people to play in t-shirts then no problem, I personally do not agree but if it is allowed then so be it, the issue I have is when a club has no jeans/t-shirts on the course and then people turn up and start winging that they cant wear what they want. Agree with you 100% about denim, it is useless for golf and why people wish to play golf in it is a complete mystery to me

 

[Liverbirdie]

Socks and sandals should incur a 3 shot penalty, at least.

 

[blackpuddinmonster]

Are you a Bury fan then? If so we beat you 2-0 yesterday:ears: The footy is a lot more expensive than people think at lower level, ours is quite expensive really but then again we do have a brand new stadium with all the extras and we have possibly the top wage bill in the division if rumours are true after our summer splurge. If the club allows people to play in t-shirts then no problem, I personally do not agree but if it is allowed then so be it, the issue I have is when a club has no jeans/t-shirts on the course and then people turn up and start winging that they cant wear what they want. Agree with you 100% about denim, it is useless for golf and why people wish to play golf in it is a complete mystery to me

You dam Spireite you. Things looked good for 50 mins, so i've been told.
I think your pretty much nailed on for promotion this year though, a lot of money as been spent on a team that wern't half bad before, so all the best to you. :thup:

I agree its not difficult to adhere to a clubs rules on dress, and they should be respected if your playing there, i just don't see why people get so protective of them.
Like i've said, fashion moves on, the arguement about tradition is spurrious at best. What we wear today bears no resemblance to what was worn between the wars say, and the golfing gods haven't decended to smote us all with fire and brimstone.
There are many problems in golf concerning falling participation, and i don't for a minute think dress is the main one, but as evidensed by the amount of space it takes up on here it is certainly an imotive one. My personal view is don't worry about what your oppo wears, because it doesn't effect how you play, or it shouldn't. What someone chooses to wear is such a trivial matter, do we really need rules to impose some percieved standard??
I've said it before, and i'l say it again, its not the clothes that maketh the man, its the man that makes the clothes, or rather his character if you know what i mean..i think...
Anyway they're my views for what they're worth, good luck for the rest of the season ITR, both at golf and the footy. :thup:

 

[Slab]

A friend of mine, member of a different club, sent me this personal Email addressed individually to all members of his club (by first name).

" Dear (whoever),

> Dress standards at the Club are falling !!
> If you find that your playing partner is not adhering to the correct dress rules - please point this out to him and ask him to change before he plays.
>
> Members and visitors are not allowed to:-
>
> 1. Wear cargo pants or shorts with side pockets
> 2. Have their shirts hanging out of their trousers
> 3. Turn up at the Club in denim jeans or flip flops as footwear
> 4. Turn up at the Club with no socks
> 4. Wear sandals without socks
> 5. Golf socks must be predominantly white - not black, grey or any other colour!
>
> Do not wait for a Committee member to come along - be positive and take
> responsibility for looking after standards within the Club.
>
> Secretary/Manager"

What's your view?
Not on the 5 (universal?) dress code points above, but on being asked to tell other members and friends to go and change?

Re my bold:

I think its really not on to expect/instruct the membership to police the clubs policies (outwith the obvious H&S which isn't really a club policy anyway)

This is a function for the committee &/or club staff to deal with not paying members

Can you imagine your gym management asking you to police their dress code throughout all members & guests?

 

[User20205]

You've obviously got a problem with a grown man wearing a football shirt (as you've mentioned it more than once) yet you are quite proud to admit to the masses to wearing these View attachment 7077
It's a crazy world :rofl:

Yep stylist them !! Are they new I didn't see them in the catalogue :thup:

Bet you can't get them in sports direct.

 

[In_The_Rough]

You dam Spireite you. Things looked good for 50 mins, so i've been told.
I think your pretty much nailed on for promotion this year though, a lot of money as been spent on a team that wern't half bad before, so all the best to you. :thup:

I agree its not difficult to adhere to a clubs rules on dress, and they should be respected if your playing there, i just don't see why people get so protective of them.
Like i've said, fashion moves on, the arguement about tradition is spurrious at best. What we wear today bears no resemblance to what was worn between the wars say, and the golfing gods haven't decended to smote us all with fire and brimstone.
There are many problems in golf concerning falling participation, and i don't for a minute think dress is the main one, but as evidensed by the amount of space it takes up on here it is certainly an imotive one. My personal view is don't worry about what your oppo wears, because it doesn't effect how you play, or it shouldn't. What someone chooses to wear is such a trivial matter, do we really need rules to impose some percieved standard??
I've said it before, and i'l say it again, its not the clothes that maketh the man, its the man that makes the clothes, or rather his character if you know what i mean..i think...
Anyway they're my views for what they're worth, good luck for the rest of the season ITR, both at golf and the footy. :thup:

Your lot missed 2 sitters in the first half if they had gone in would have been a different result, having said that we still had 4 new players who were big signings for us who did not play for various reasons. Lots of time for clubs like Bury who operate on small budgets, think you are correct about promotion for us I will be surprised if we do not go up, Paul Cook is a real taskmaster and with the new staff both playing and coaching which he has brought in we will not be far off. Good luck with your golf and all the best to Bury apart from when you play us at our place

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I haven't read right through this to see where it has gone - however I fully agree with the Email sent by the committee and all points made in it. Indeed two weeks ago as I was signing in for a comp the pro told me that the shorts I was wearing were unacceptable (I suppose they were rather cargo pantish and just beneath the middle of the knee). As I have no time to return home to change - and besides I could do with another pair of shorts - I bought a pair there and then. And I've been pulled up by our steward more than once for wearing a shirt outside my trousers (by mistake) - polo or even casual of sort that are meant to be worn loose. That's the rule. I adhere to it.

White socks - this is my Mrs' biggest complaint re dress code. She says wearing sports white socks pulled up to calf with golf shoes looks naff. However checking with the pro he advised that I could wear them turned down - the rule is that they should cover the ankle - the ankle being a useful guideline for preventing 'trainer' socks being worn i.e. no sock visible. He sells white socks that meet the dress code - better than folding or rolling down normal white sport socks. And white is neutral - and sock does not need to be seen above the ankle. So if you don't like white - roll em down so no -one can see your sartorial faux pas. Permit other colours and you end up with ridiculous 'piss taiking' joke socks like we have colourful patterned 'joke trousers' - that I tend to not find funny or clever.

And yes - we members do pull each other and visitors up if they breach our dress code - and the points made in the OP committee's Email.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

You would struggle to get into a lot of clubs in Surrey then, as a lot have a no denim rule. Personally think private Clubs can have whatever dress rules they like, and if you don't like them don't play there. Would mean you don't get to play Sunningdale, Swinley, Hankley, Worplesdon, West Hill, Woking, St Georges Hill etc etc, which I think would be your loss.

And you wouldn't get near my little Surrey track in jeans - unless you were a tradesman

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I had to call down to Cooden last week on my day off to pay the deposit for our upcoming meet.
I was at home wearing a pair of jeans and a casual shirt, but changed into a decent pair of trousers and a "smarter" shirt before I went down there. I couldn't bear the thought of entering the golf club casually dressed.
It's called "etiquette".

:thup:

I will always try and look reasonably smart if I have to go to the club for anything - and always will if I know I'll have to pop into the clubhouse. I wouldn't ever wear jeans and t-shirt even if just popping into our pro shop (which is separate from clubhouse)

 

[Deleted member 18121]

I'd hate to play at a club where you've got blokes running across the fairway to tell you off because you're socks/shorts don't meet certain standards. Fair play if you're happy with that, but I'd actively avoid any club that had those kind of rules and members who felt compelled to go out of their way to put you in your place. This thread has really opened my eyes and I'll make sure I do my research before I even think about playing somewhere else.

 

[Sid Rixon IV]

Hi puddin,
"No offense mate but times move on, i mean only people who think they're being witty wear plus fours"
i wear 'em!
They're superbly comfortable (roomy) and suited to certain weather conditions on our course when gaiters and w/p's aren't required.
I succumbed after being convinced by others.
On the other hand......
i was invited to join the "Vets" recently.
We sit down to a meal afterward - collar, tie and jacket and the tie has to be a club tie.
i found that out after joining and was not impressed.
i also need a club team shirt.
We needed permission to remove jackets at the table - no one under 60 in the room of course but I just think it's outmoded.
Having said that they're a great bunch of guys and I have a choice to play with them or not.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I'd hate to play at a club where you've got blokes running across the fairway to tell you off because you're socks/shorts don't meet certain standards. Fair play if you're happy with that, but I'd actively avoid any club that had those kind of rules and members who felt compelled to go out of their way to put you in your place. This thread has really opened my eyes and I'll make sure I do my research before I even think about playing somewhere else.

Even at my place where the dress code is strictly monitored and applied you don't have blokes running across the fairway to tell you off because you're socks/shorts don't meet certain standards. Basically because you'd be advised of your breach of dress code before you reached the first tee - at latest when you are standing there.

 

[Deleted member 18121]

Even at my place where the dress code is strictly monitored and applied you don't have blokes running across the fairway to tell you off because you're socks/shorts don't meet certain standards. Basically because you'd be advised of your breach of dress code before you reached the first tee - at latest when you are standing there.

fair play and as long as you're ok with that then that's all that matters....for me personally I wouldn't like it and wish there was just a standard code that all courses used as it would take any confusion out of the process.