Dress down days for golf clubs?

[duncan mackie]

no agro - I am honestly struggling to understand.

if we accept that the members of such clubs aren't interested (evidenced and observed by others in this thread and a reasonable assumption), then how is this going to work with the occasional visitor?

I think we can assume that the advertising of a forthcoming dress down day for visitors isn't going to get past the committee, where does this leave us?

You turn up knowing the dress code and are suddenly faced with 'surprise dress down day for charity' - but of course you don't have that with you because you know the rules...

Again, implied from the earlier posts by others, if I was a visitor who went there because of the dress code, how would I feel if faced with such a situation?

As you, apparently, I am all for clear published and understood dress codes - I know where I stand and can make my (informed) choice. (Actually I have a bit of a thing about the various sock codes with shorts but that's another story.

 

[Hobbit]

Why the implication the "the jacket and tie brigade" need "to loosen up?" If a club has a dress code its probably been ratified at an AGM, and if the members want to change it they can via an AGM. In effect its a minority that want to change it to something more casual, or it would have changed at the last AGM, or the one before that etc.

Is it a genuine desire to raise money for charity via a dress down day, or is the dress down day just a vehicle to "loosen up" the dress code every other week? Sorry for being cynical but...

 

[Deke]

Forgive me ,I am rambling a bit,let me try and clear this up.I propose that any golf club with a code should consider having the occasional day with a less strict one.Clubs with more relaxed codes could indeed let jeans be worn,clubs with a stricter code may still scoff at this but might allow you in for a meal without a tie.This will hope fully encourage family,friends,and other prospective members to visit in a more relaxed environment on these days.If this day was listed on club website it might also attract the visiting golfer put off by the code in the first place.If the members were charged a few bucks this gives club extra funds.

 

[SocketRocket]

I do really think this dress code gets blown out of all proportion.

How many clubs insist that you wear a jacket, collar and tie, other than formal occasions? Not many. Almost every club is happy for you to wear a polo shirt at the bar. Clubs like mine have a lounge and a casual 'spikes bar' where you can dress down.

The reference to stuffing the 'codgers' is just disrespectful, clandestine and infantile, in the same manner as someone generalising about young people.

I just don't understand 'dress down days' for charity. If you want to raise some money just ask people for it, you don't need to dress up like a scruffy young jigger!! OOOps!

 

[duncan mackie]

I do really think this dress code gets blown out of all proportion.

How many clubs insist that you wear a jacket, collar and tie, other than formal occasions? Not many. Almost every club is happy for you to wear a polo shirt at the bar. Clubs like mine have a lounge and a casual 'spikes bar' where you can dress down.

The reference to stuffing the 'codgers' is just disrespectful, clandestine and infantile, in the same manner as someone generalising about young people.

I just don't understand 'dress down days' for charity. If you want to raise some money just ask people for it, you don't need to dress up like a scruffy young jigger!! OOOps!

well said

the only bit I would pick up on is that there definitely are some that require jacket and tie in the resteraunt and after 1600h in the main bar - I'm thinking of one specific when quoting those times.

interestingly - they don't allow casual visitors at all and the resteraunt is full every day with members, wives and friends. anything but a 2 ball requires specific permission, and no-one can remember when it's ever been given!

it may seem strange then, as a 4 ball loving, spike bar preferring, golfer that I look forward with relish to playing there each year!

 

[golfdub]

Clubs are run by society's of old men who grew up wearing shirt and ties but times have changed and so do these silly rules. If you want to wear a suit then go ahead, if you want to wear a football top then go ahead. If your
Offended by someone wearing a football top then I would say you have an easy life if this a is a worry to you.
I'm 26 play of a 13hcp and wear the correct clothing but I'm covered in tattoos and always get a dirty look of people and I'm fed up with this rubbish

 

[sev112]

no agro - I am honestly struggling to understand.

if we accept that the members of such clubs aren't interested (evidenced and observed by others in this thread and a reasonable assumption), then how is this going to work with the occasional visitor?

I think we can assume that the advertising of a forthcoming dress down day for visitors isn't going to get past the committee, where does this leave us?

You turn up knowing the dress code and are suddenly faced with 'surprise dress down day for charity' - but of course you don't have that with you because you know the rules...

Again, implied from the earlier posts by others, if I was a visitor who went there because of the dress code, how would I feel if faced with such a situation?

As you, apparently, I am all for clear published and understood dress codes - I know where I stand and can make my (informed) choice. (Actually I have a bit of a thing about the various sock codes with shorts but that's another story.

Your last statement destroys your whole argument about dress codes in their totality
Bearing in mind that i probably agree with you about socks, how about transferring the exact same logic to other aspects of dress codes and see i fyou can find any logic whatsoever, other than a highly subjective (read "wrong") judgement of a person by virtue of what they are wearing - you say earlier it is not he football shirt per se , it is the person who wears them that you don't approve of. i look forward to the day when you march Prince Harry off your course because he once wore a football shirt ???

 

[Deke]

Thank you Sev and Golfdub,finally some sense!

 

[SocketRocket]

Clubs are run by society's of old men who grew up wearing shirt and ties but times have changed and so do these silly rules. If you want to wear a suit then go ahead, if you want to wear a football top then go ahead. If your
Offended by someone wearing a football top then I would say you have an easy life if this a is a worry to you.
I'm 26 play of a 13hcp and wear the correct clothing but I'm covered in tattoos and always get a dirty look of people and I'm fed up with this rubbish

Instead of complaining then why don't people like you get involved with your golf club, it's no good complaining about those that make the effort.

You are not very well informed either. People in their sixties were teenagers in the 1960's and were the generation that started wearing jeans and fashionable clothes, they were probably more progressive in their dress and social attitudes than you are. They have now grown older, like you will and mellowed a little, like you will. I dislike ageist attitudes and people that complain about others while not having the self determination to do anything about it.

Oh! and whats your handicap and tattoo complex got to do with the subject anyway?

 

[duncan mackie]

Your last statement destroys your whole argument about dress codes in their totality
Bearing in mind that i probably agree with you about socks, how about transferring the exact same logic to other aspects of dress codes and see i fyou can find any logic whatsoever, other than a highly subjective (read "wrong") judgement of a person by virtue of what they are wearing - you say earlier it is not he football shirt per se , it is the person who wears them that you don't approve of. i look forward to the day when you march Prince Harry off your course because he once wore a football shirt ???

my issue with socks and shorts is that there remain so many differences - not what they individually are. It followed the line 'I know where I am..."

the line re it's not the f shirt it's the person in it was followed by a smilie indicating I didn't seriously mean it - I don't use a lot of them. As I thought I indicated earlier in the thread I do not think any judgements on people because of the clothes they wear are necessarily valid - I think this was in the context of those wearing a jacket and tie at a golf club not necessarily wearing one in the street...many could be wearing football shirts!

 

[USER1999]

I don't own any jeans, so am happy to see them banned. I don't have tattoos, but don't really care one way or toher. Can't see the point of dress down days.

 

[Hobbit]

Thank you Sev and Golfdub,finally some sense!

So just because others disagree, they're not talking sense?

Wonder just who is the narrow minded one here?

I don't have a problem with jacket and tie, or jeans and t-shirt. I'll respect either side, especially if they respect each other's choice.

 

[golfdub]

my issue with socks and shorts is that there remain so many differences - not what they individually are. It followed the line 'I know where I am..."

the line re it's not the f shirt it's the person in it was followed by a smilie indicating I didn't seriously mean it - I don't use a lot of them. As I thought I indicated earlier in the thread I do not think any judgements on people because of the clothes they wear are necessarily valid - I think this was in the context of those wearing a jacket and tie at a golf club not necessarily wearing one in the street...many could be wearing football shirts!

Because a lot of people in this game like to look down on one another And the dress code is part of this.
And please don try to offend me by stating I will mellow out one day and so on just because I've got an opinion
like every other person on his site.
I'm polite with everyone I meet on the course and just expect the same back.

It's been emotional

 

[golfdub]

Because a lot of people in this game like to look down on one another And the dress code is part of this.
And please don try to offend me by stating I will mellow out one day and so on just because I've got an opinion
like every other person on his site.
I'm polite with everyone I meet on the course and just expect the same back.

It's been emotional

Oops this was for socketrockets quote.

 

[golfdub]

So just because others disagree, they're not talking sense?

Wonder just who is the narrow minded one here?

I don't have a problem with jacket and tie, or jeans and t-shirt. I'll respect either side, especially if they respect each other's choice.

I think you read that wrong, he seems to see it as he wants everyone to respect each other. That's not narrow
minded. (I think)

 

[SocketRocket]

Because a lot of people in this game like to look down on one another And the dress code is part of this.
And please don try to offend me by stating I will mellow out one day and so on just because I've got an opinion
like every other person on his site.
I'm polite with everyone I meet on the course and just expect the same back.

It's been emotional

Seems to me that you look down on older people. I think you are a victim of your own standards.

 

[Deke]

I simply cannot believe some of the assumptions being made here,some of you really need to get a grip! This is a forum,I thought I would talk about an idea I had,not try to wind people up! Why this makes me narrow minded I cannot fathom.

 

[Bash]

I do really think this dress code gets blown out of all proportion.

How many clubs insist that you wear a jacket, collar and tie, other than formal occasions? Not many. Almost every club is happy for you to wear a polo shirt at the bar. Clubs like mine have a lounge and a casual 'spikes bar' where you can dress down.

The reference to stuffing the 'codgers' is just disrespectful, clandestine and infantile, in the same manner as someone generalising about young people.

I just don't understand 'dress down days' for charity. If you want to raise some money just ask people for it, you don't need to dress up like a scruffy young jigger!! OOOps!

My sentiments exactly

 

[HawkeyeMS]

Its simple. Our club has rules on what you can and can't wear on the course and in the clubhouse (no jeans, trainers etc). We don't insist on jacket and ties at any time except club matches presentation night and things like Captains Day. For these few occasions its actually quite nice to get suited and booted (we've a new 125th anniversary tie out and I want an excuse to wear mine). The rest of the time its golf shirts and trousers. No even any need to change out of the gear you played in unless soaking wet (common sense).

In essence, what I'm saying them is da rules. If you don't want to stick to them then the club isn't for you. They aren't exactly rigid and the do's and don't hardly run into a bible. A bit of common sense is all that is required. I wouldn't want to suddenly see jeans, trainers etc in the clubhouse. I can see that in the pub and I'd prefer my club to keep some standards.

Spot on Homer. If you don't like the rules of the club, don't join. Personally, I wouldn't even contemplate joining a club that insisted on jacket and tie in the clubhouse at all times. There are enough clubs around that have sensible dress code rules not to have to join one that has rules you don't like.

I don't see the need for jacket and tie in the same way I don't see the need to wear jeans.

 

[Val]

Our club over the last few years has relaxed dress codes a bit, you no longer need a collar when in the bar and you can wear jeans, still no trainers though.