Does anyone actually like hitting hybrids

[Herbie]

My game improved dramatically to a good standard, then fell off, now is going downhill minutely and slowly, but surely, if I go back to the old kit I will just go backwards more rapidly, Im sure I would enjoy that?

 

[SS2]

Do you not feel that there is no point to them ?

Ahaa, a double negative, so you do like them

I ain't never seen no-one do nothing good without hybrids.

 

[Robobum]

Your argument, Freddy, would hold a little weight if you weren't using technology to better your own game. I am not stupid enough to think you should go back to hickory shafts but you can still play with a true blade instead of the soft version that you currently have in your bag. If you did I am sure you would be more than capable of hitting a blade 1 iron like a muppet.

Hybrids are nothing but over developed fairway woods anyway, viewed from an alternative perspective they can be seen as a smaller headed fairway wood as opposed to the "monster" deep faced 3 wood you carry yourself.

Does that make you a 3 wood muppet??

 

[mono217]

But hybrids where designed to make it eisier.

 

[Cernunnos]

Keef: Freddie: , you are both right.

On one hand some beginners thrive on a challenge, where on the other hand others have no staying power when things get a little tough & easily discoraged.

Its up to the beginner to decide for themselves whether they are the sort that thrives on a challenge & doesn't give up. Or needs a little helping hand to get themselves over the first few hurdles.

Think its time for another vote... rofl.

 

[GB72]

At the moment I like hitting anything that puts the ball in the air, propels it forward and leaves it nearer the hole. Rather that than duffing a worm burner of a 3 iron 100 yards along the deck

 

[Herbie]

Mono, every club ever made was made to make the game easier, what would be the benefit of making equipment to make it harder? All new clubs offer benefit, If I bought a brand new set of clubs, the same type as my old set, I would expect them to perform marginally better, or should I stick to the worn set? I used to have a set made for me that I kept for many years (15 I think), small club heads, very worn yet still managed to hold down a 6 h/c at one time, Ive been there with the more difficult stuff yet having better kit didnt suddenly launch me into scratch. You still have to hit the ball and play the game.

 

[KeefG]

but we all managed to get past being a starter we didn't give up - its when you are a starter that you make the biggest improvements - my game only improves by the minuteist amounts now -

Yes "we" (is that the royal we?) did manage to get past being a starter, but i only started playing about 3 years ago and, even though i paid pennies for my first set, were still a million miles more technologically advanced than the kit of 30 years ago....which enabled me to strike the ball and hit a good shot every now and again....which made me want to play even more! Round & round we go...

and on that bombshell I do have to go

You are Jeremy Clarkson and i claim my £5

 

[Herbie]

Its not clarkson as his Driving is questionable?

 

[mono217]

Good point HNJ

 

[haplesshacker]

Clarkson doesn't know much about golf!!

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Enhanceing the game is not all about scores there has to be a point were you have to enjoy what you are doing and take pride in your ability and the time you have put into something - I just feel we are starting down a road where we are making the game to easy and we will come to a point were people will pick up clubs for the first time and shot level par and if something is that easy what is the point in doing it

The enjoyment for most amateur golfers comes in being able to get the ball around as best they can. Can you honestly expect a 18+ handicapper to stand there with a 1 or 2 iron and hit good shots or enjoy the experience simply because of pride.

A lot of club golfers don't have the time to dedicate to regular practice which is why they have higher handicaps. Playing a hybrid doens't make them any less of a golfer.

I think this wins March's award for the least thought out argument prior to posting

 

[Cernunnos]

At the moment I like hitting anything that puts the ball in the air, propels it forward and leaves it nearer the hole. Rather that than duffing a worm burner of a 3 iron 100 yards along the deck

My 3 iron off the third tee was a long drawing hook. 9 iron over the tree to layup infront of the greenside front bunker, quarter sand iron. shaved the hole with the first putt & tap in for bogey.

It was my 3 wood off the second tee that was my TFR shot.

Mind you even then half a wedge & a 12 foot curving putt for parr3 saw me right the 225 yarder hole

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Again I don't wont to upset anyone just want people to think about what getting better should mean - I just think it should take more than buying some new clubs

It does. You can buy any clubs you like. Cavity back, FAST irons, blades, combo sets et al but if your swing is fundamentally flawed you are not going to play to your potential. End of

 

[Cernunnos]

Its not clarkson as his Driving is questionable?

And if clarkson was down the range with hsi Ferrari Driver he'd produce that much smoke when he turns off the traction control on the head of the club that there would be so much white smoke you wouldn't know the ball hadn't even made the 50 yard marker... rofl

 

[Cernunnos]

Again I don't wont to upset anyone just want people to think about what getting better should mean - I just think it should take more than buying some new clubs

It does. You can buy any clubs you like. Cavity back, FAST irons, blades, combo sets et al but if your swing is fundamentally flawed you are not going to play to your potential. End of

Indeed Homer

No amount of help is going to gain anyone parr on their first round if they can't get the funermentals right

 

[USER1999]

Actually, it could be Clarkson, his driving sucks.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I think the point the original OP has missed is that it isn't the changing face of club design that is at the heart of the issue here but a fundamental need to improve which won't come by practice alone.

Irrespective of what make or model of club a golfer chooses, if the intial swing they use when they begin playing is flawed any practice they put in will only ingrain poor habits and repeat errors. It doesn't matter if the using a 9 iron, mid iron, modern driver or the devils own work the hybrid. A bad swing is a bad swing.

It isn't the game that is changing with the advancement of technology, it is the way peole are now able to improve. I know a large number of forum members on here have had, or continue to have tuition from a PGA pro and I think 99% would say they saw an improvement. Its what they do afterwards that separates a lot of talented but high handicappers from being lower. Mnay on here have families, busy working lives and other priorities and so they can make progress with lessons but don't have the time or committment to practice regularly. As a result there is a peak and then a trough in their game.

Are the hybrids or new woods to blame. Clearly not. I spent a lot of time last year working on my game (mostly the long game) to the detriment of my overall performance. I was working on bad technique and hitting too many balls. I was an assistant pro in the 80's so I know a bit, and I can say I would rather hit my tour burners than my B52 blades. I work hard at my game all the time (currently having short game lessons). Is new technology ruining it. Not a bit. Spin milled wedges mean I can play with more confidence.

In essence the initial argument is flawed. The fact that you want to hark back to some bygone era despite your handicap sounds like someone who isn't getting the breaks at the level he plays at and a bit like sour grapes. I think it is obvious public opinion is well and truely against you and so unless you can find something more compelling than you have to date its probably time to give this thread up

 

[KeefG]

I think the point the original OP has missed is that it isn't the changing face of club design that is at the heart of the issue here but a fundamental need to improve which won't come by practice alone.

Irrespective of what make or model of club a golfer chooses, if the intial swing they use when they begin playing is flawed any practice they put in will only ingrain poor habits and repeat errors. It doesn't matter if the using a 9 iron, mid iron, modern driver or the devils own work the hybrid. A bad swing is a bad swing.

It isn't the game that is changing with the advancement of technology, it is the way peole are now able to improve. I know a large number of forum members on here have had, or continue to have tuition from a PGA pro and I think 99% would say they saw an improvement. Its what they do afterwards that separates a lot of talented but high handicappers from being lower. Mnay on here have families, busy working lives and other priorities and so they can make progress with lessons but don't have the time or committment to practice regularly. As a result there is a peak and then a trough in their game.

Are the hybrids or new woods to blame. Clearly not. I spent a lot of time last year working on my game (mostly the long game) to the detriment of my overall performance. I was working on bad technique and hitting too many balls. I was an assistant pro in the 80's so I know a bit, and I can say I would rather hit my tour burners than my B52 blades. I work hard at my game all the time (currently having short game lessons). Is new technology ruining it. Not a bit. Spin milled wedges mean I can play with more confidence.

In essence the initial argument is flawed. The fact that you want to hark back to some bygone era despite your handicap sounds like someone who isn't getting the breaks at the level he plays at and a bit like sour grapes. I think it is obvious public opinion is well and truely against you and so unless you can find something more compelling than you have to date its probably time to give this thread up

Amen to that brother!

 

[Macster]

If the Clubs are available, then you have the choice to use them.

But, I would wager that most of you 'wish' you could drill a nice 3 iron off the fairway, or a drawn 2 iron low off the tee sometimes, and what the OP is trying to say is that 'more' of you should perhaps stick with them and not bin them quite so readily for the Hybrids.

Yes yes, I know we all dont have loads of time, and neither do I, but what I did do in my early playing days was stick with my long irons and learn to hit them well, and in all honesty, I feel it has benefitted my overall iron play enormously over the years.

But, each to their own.