Do you NR to save face?

[Liverbirdie]

9 times out of 10 it's the cowards way out.

Pure laziness.

Agreed that if near the end of the round and you are miles from buffer it is sensible to scratch the hole to keep play moving. That I have no problem with.

It's the walk offers or picker uppers I dislike. I had both yesterday over the course of two rounds.

One guy left after 9 of the second round and the other just picked up after 3 putting for a double on the 16th of second round.

Saving face or lost will. Bit of both perhaps.

Yep, very rarely do (or have ever done), but if lost a ball tht I hadn't hit a provisional for, would consider it, if well over handicap (but just for the one hole).

 

[Deleted member 1147]

I don't NR to save face, I really only do it to save time.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

The UHS is based on the following fundamental premises: ï‚·

every player will endeavour to make the best score he can at each hole in every qualifying round he plays and will report all such rounds for handicap purposes;

If I had £1 for every minute of my life I've wasted waiting behind someone who is determined to hand in a score no matter how ridiculously high it is rather than NR I wouldn't be sat in an office now earning a living, I'd be a rich man playing golf all day.

Sometimes you just have to accept it is going to be a 0.1 increase and move on. Playing 23 off the tee then looking for all those balls is totally pointless!

 

[GB72]

I am another in the NR to save time camp.

If my card is totally shot and I cannot find a ball straight off then I will NR the card rather than hold up the course and my playing partners. I will score the rest of the holes for handicap purposes but I not going to slow everyone up by doing a walk of shame back to the tee when I am going to get a 0.1 anyway.

 

[Fyldewhite]

Like most, don't NR very often. When I do it's usually because all my shots (and some of next weeks) are long gone, I'm swinging awful and don't want to put myself or my playing partners through any more! If it's because of an unexpected lost ball, I'll probably not walk back but will treat it as a double and try to make the buffer. Have manged this a few times but never got a cut (yet!). It's surprising how many players don't have a clue that you can still get a cut with an NR and just treat it as "end of round".

 

[Mike07]

I think a lot players simply don't realise that you can still get in the buffer or even get a cut despite not a completing a hole in a medal and are very surprised when I have told them this.

I never knew this.

I can see the reason for NRing in the lost ball scenario when having a disastrous round, but generally do you guys not accept that if its a medal day at the club, it could be a slow day? If you don't like it, don't play in the medal. Stick to the stablefords.

Medal golf is medal golf, no excuse for not finishing a round.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Medal golf is medal golf, no excuse for not finishing a round.

So you would rather spend 5+ hours out there behind someone who shoots a nett 110?

No wonder people complain about slow play.

 

[Mike07]

So you would rather spend 5+ hours out there behind someone who shoots a nett 110?

No wonder people complain about slow play.

Rarely happens at my club, but if that what it takes then yes. Medals are always 2/3 balls and there is a two tee start at my place.

Doesn't mean its not annoying and frustrating, of course it is (I share the frustration). But my point is simply that this is medal golf and the NR shouldn't be used just because you are having a bad day. Goes against the point of playing a medal round in my view

 

[GB72]

Rarely happens at my club, but if that what it takes then yes. Medals are always 2/3 balls and there is a two tee start at my place.

Doesn't mean its not annoying and frustrating, of course it is (I share the frustration). But my point is simply that this is medal golf and the NR shouldn't be used just because you are having a bad day. Goes against the point of playing a medal round in my view

Not sure how, the hole is counted as a double for handicap purposes, you still finish and score the rest of the round, it is not as if you NR and walk off the course. The only thing you do is deprive yourself of the chance of winning. Cannot see where the problem is with that and see it as far better than holding a course up for ages when your card is shot and 0.1 is coming anyway.

 

[Deleted member 1147]

Medal golf is medal golf, no excuse for not finishing a round.

You can NR and still finish the round, all you do is not return a score on that one hole.

Yes, you will not win the competition (which if you are doing badly enough to consider an NR you probably wouldn't do anyway), but can still get a cut and/or enjoy the rest of your round, at a decent pace.

 

[Region3]

Rarely happens at my club, but if that what it takes then yes. Medals are always 2/3 balls and there is a two tee start at my place.

Doesn't mean its not annoying and frustrating, of course it is (I share the frustration). But my point is simply that this is medal golf and the NR shouldn't be used just because you are having a bad day. Goes against the point of playing a medal round in my view

I agree.

Medal
Pro : The guy making 12's isn't likely to beat you.
Con : Round will take longer.

Stableford
Pro : Round takes less time.
Con : The guy making 12's is more likely to beat you.


Pick your poison.

 

[Spear-Chucker]

Couldn't care less about saving face. I've NR'd plenty of times to spare the agony of going through the motions when I can be trying to solve the problem. Most importantly it saves time and prevents partners from being distracted from their games. We're amateurs, we will get the odd shocker. Those who insist on playing every single shot for the net 87 should be guillotined.

 

[Wilson]

I NR'd for the first time yesterday in a comp! Lost ball with a long walk back, score had gone so no point holding everyone up.

Luckily I've never played bad enough to do it due to a bad score.

 

[Val]

I never knew this.

I can see the reason for NRing in the lost ball scenario when having a disastrous round, but generally do you guys not accept that if its a medal day at the club, it could be a slow day? If you don't like it, don't play in the medal. Stick to the stablefords.

Medal golf is medal golf, no excuse for not finishing a round.

And if you are 10 shots over your handicap you are going to be in the bottom end of the field at best so an NR on 1 hole in the grand scale of means no different to finishing net +10 over CSS.

 

[Hosel Fade]

Only if I'm already 8+ over hcp and I then lose a ball unexpectedly. Will hit a provisional still if I think a ball will be lost. Couldn't care less if a 95 appears next to my name

 

[Crow]

I've NR'd once this year, and I didn't lose the ball.

Score already gone and I was in the trees separating two holes, after a sequence of shanks and hitting trees I finally got the ball onto the fairway for 5 or 6, only trouble was it was the fairway of the wrong hole, to save myself from bursting a blood vessel and breaking clubs in frustration I picked up and calmly joined PPs on the green.

Still scored the rest of the holes though.

 

[mikejohnchapman]

Unsure what you mean here, are you saying if you NR and walk off it doesn't count for HC but NR at one hole and carry on does?

An NR and walk off will result in a 0.1 as your score at everyhole you don't complete would be net double bogey.

My understand is that for handicapping purposes you can return your medal card even if you have not completed one hole. You are obviously disqualified from the competition but your score will be considered for handicap purposes only. In most circumstances (assuming the double bogey rule) you would be over your buffer zone - 0.1 up. However, I presume if you were having a really good round and didn't complete a hole you could make a buffer zone or better.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I can't remember my last NR. Besides - with/from who are you saving face? Just post your score. If it includes a horror then so be it. That's golf. I can only imagine that NRs to save face are only done by those who think, or pretend to others, that they are better than they actually are; an no matter how good we actually are - we can all have a horror.

 

[chrisd]

When I have n/r'd I try and only do it for the hole I've lost a ball that I never expected to lose one on. I have done it due to injury and no .1 should be added for that if you write it on the card or inform the competition committee

 

[Val]

My understand is that for handicapping purposes you can return your medal card even if you have not completed one hole. You are obviously disqualified from the competition but your score will be considered for handicap purposes only. In most circumstances (assuming the double bogey rule) you would be over your buffer zone - 0.1 up. However, I presume if you were having a really good round and didn't complete a hole you could make a buffer zone or better.

All of which is true but in your other post you suggested an NR doesn't count for handicap, hence my question. Could you clarify your thinking?

If you enter a comp whether you complete 18 holes or play 1 and walk off both rounds would count for handicap