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For me a long par 3 is an unreasonable hole for the ordinary golfer if there is no realistic lay up. If there is a possibility of both a one shot and two shot strategy this makes it interesting.
I am certainly not denigrating shorter par 3's and think good courses have both but generally on a short par 3 there is one strategy which is correct club to middle of green. Not to say that the hole cannot be interesting and enjoyable but they rarely ask strategic questions.
 

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I'd be very surprised if "normal people" want to play a par 3 where they have to take driver and Rory hits his 6 iron.

Maybe, but my point is, you don’t have to take a driver. Just play a distance within your ability. Personally, I tend to get to two feet with a nine iron at 220, so maybe a skewed view.
 

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Maybe, but my point is, you don’t have to take a driver. Just play a distance within your ability. Personally, I tend to get to two feet with a nine iron at 220, so maybe a skewed view.
Sorry, what? Did you just say you can hit a 9 iron to two feet from 220 yards? :ROFLMAO:
 

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I'm afraid not.. I'll delete my account on the way out..
Don't worry he probably doesn't do it every time I imagine with a strong wind in his face he sometimes has to use a chocked down 7 or with a x wind the dispersion could increase to four feet or so.
 

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Don't worry he probably doesn't do it every time I imagine with a strong wind in his face he sometimes has to use a chocked down 7 or with a x wind the dispersion could increase to four feet or so.
He thinned one once on a downhill hole that was baked hard in the summer 🤣
 

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If we're talking about idiotic par 3s, I give you the 17th at Pinner Hill.
(Amazingly it's not even the stupidest hole on the course, which is the par 4 12th)

The 17th needs a windmill, it really does belong on a crazy golf course.

The 16th used to be equally stupid in summer, until they built mounds on the right of the fairway to stop balls rolling into the trees.
 

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You're going to say this is the wrong attitude of course, but I think most golfers see "par 3" and expect to have a chance of hitting the green. When you have no choice but to lay up, chip on and two-putt for a bogey it just doesn't feel very enjoyable. It also means you have no room for error at all or you're looking at a double.

A good course will have some long par 4s that are out of reach in 2 for a bogey golfer, and some shorter par 4's within range. I don't see why this should be any different for par 3s. A bogey golfer is going to miss most greens in regulation, regardless of length.

The par 3s on my course are 140, 170, 185 and 200 - I think that's a good mix.
 
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