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The programme is about anxiety. This is not the same as depression. I think the disappointing thing about this programme will be the incorrect and old thinkings about what anxiety is and how to treat it. Hope I’m wrong.
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The programme is about anxiety. This is not the same as depression. I think the disappointing thing about this programme will be the incorrect and old thinkings about what anxiety is and how to treat it. Hope I’m wrong.
fundy
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Have suffered form health anxiety since my mum died 20 years ago, ranging from mildly irritating to completely debilitating. Had been in a much better place for years until last summer when a number of events triggered off a relapse (which for me came out of the blue but makes sense with hindsight!)
Wish I knew what I know now twenty years ago thats for sure!!!!Can sometimes lead to depression and some similar issues but as you say the underlying issue is actually quite different albeit there is definitely some overlap in symptoms and treatment. Didnt know about this program, will try and find it on iplayer to see if anything interesting in it
Different people will respond to different treatments (whether talking therapy, medication, hypnosis, energy therapy, meditation/mindfulness or something more spiritual based), often a case of finding what works for the individual best, which may well be a combination of several things
For the op, as a friend the best thing you can do is be approachable, keep inviting them to things but not getting upset if they dont/cant come or cancel at short notice, keep engaging with them even if it feels a bit of a one way street (I pretty much lost all my childhood friends after mum died because I changed and they didnt know how to handle it) and be available without being overly pushy (takes quite a special friend, its not easy but will be greatly appreciated!)
Piece
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And 10 mins into the programme and I’m unfortunately right.
Wolf
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As others have said seek assitance, a decent Dr will come out to them. The difficulty is they still need to talk to the Dr when there.
Big key is patience, try to remain patient with them. Seek to help in a way that let's them remain independent and in control. Accept that you will possibly not understand their reasons for their feelings but just be there to support.
For some counselling works, others medication and in some cases neither helps fully. I've suffered a long time after leaving the forces and when in to some extent due to things seen, done and been through as well as having other underlying reasons that go way back. For me my key is actually physical activity, counselling didn't help me in the slightest and tablets didn't really do enough. My key is exercise doing something daily that helps my physical health helps me mentally.
With Depression it literally is a case by case basis there isn't one size fits all cure. Start with the support and contacting a Dr and be there each step along the way.
Big key is patience, try to remain patient with them. Seek to help in a way that let's them remain independent and in control. Accept that you will possibly not understand their reasons for their feelings but just be there to support.
For some counselling works, others medication and in some cases neither helps fully. I've suffered a long time after leaving the forces and when in to some extent due to things seen, done and been through as well as having other underlying reasons that go way back. For me my key is actually physical activity, counselling didn't help me in the slightest and tablets didn't really do enough. My key is exercise doing something daily that helps my physical health helps me mentally.
With Depression it literally is a case by case basis there isn't one size fits all cure. Start with the support and contacting a Dr and be there each step along the way.
clubchamp98
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My apologies I have no real knowledge about this subject.
It’s a series and sure depression was mentioned.
It’s the Alister Campbell one that is about Depression.
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Piece
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No apology necessary but it does need to be clear that anxiety and depression are separate and cannot co-exist. Feeling down or sad about anxiety sometime does occur though!
Kellfire
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ger147
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My wife suffers from both and has done for the last 17 years.
Piece
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Can humans feel genuinely happy and sad at the same time? No. They are related but opposite ends of their emotional spectrum. Same with anxiety and depression if you use their proper definition, not the commonly pedalled ones in place today. Understanding the definition is a major reason why the treatments are so wrong today, particularly for anxiety. You ask many laymen and experts what’s the treatment and they’ll fire CBT, counselling and medication at you. And then you’ll find that for almost all that do them, it just doesn’t work and at best provides a bit of masking and reassurance, without curing it. Last nights programme on anxiety just reinforced everything I’ve just said.
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Beezerk
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I can’t really add anything to what’s already been posted but I’d like to send you my best wishes.
Stay strong mate.
Stay strong mate.
sawtooth
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Friends recently suffered a tragic loss.
18 year old son tried to commit suicide a few months ago by crashing his car. They got him some help and everything seemed normal again until quite unexpectedly he tried again and this time was successful. He hanged himself in local woods.
I guess the take away here is to never assume all is well, keep in close contact , provide ongoing support and help as much as possible. That’s all you can do.
18 year old son tried to commit suicide a few months ago by crashing his car. They got him some help and everything seemed normal again until quite unexpectedly he tried again and this time was successful. He hanged himself in local woods.
I guess the take away here is to never assume all is well, keep in close contact , provide ongoing support and help as much as possible. That’s all you can do.
Wilson
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Can I ask what your background is, and if you have any qualifications to back up this theory?
ScienceBoy
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GP and help from the family got me over my anxiety issues, golf played a big part once I was up and going gain.
I would just go to work, come home, sleep, wake up and go back to work again. I couldn’t do anything else.
I would just go to work, come home, sleep, wake up and go back to work again. I couldn’t do anything else.
Some will mask it very well and will be a total surprise to you when they attempt to take their own life, but thankfully become unsuccessful.
These aren’t usually cries for help, they are genuine failed attempts to take ones own life.
It’s hard to see the signs sometimes, but if you're aware of anyone who’s vulnerable, simply don’t believe everything or anything they say or how they portray themselves, the issues they are suffering are much deeper than anything you’ll see on the surface, and when you do realise or notice, its usually then too late!
It’s a disease, not easily cured, it can be falsely controlled, but like most illnesses that become drug dependent, you can’t have a high without a low, but the lows in these circumstances can be terminal!
Crazyface
Tour Winner
I'll have a read f this later. But I float in-between the highs and low of life. I can't take the loiws so basically have removed myself from football. Sure I pay a bit of attention, but I'm so removed from it allj I don't care. Life is a rollercoaster is so apt. I can't take the lows. Currently in a proper low. Could give up now if it werepossible.
Red devil
Well-known member
Gone midnight and you're leaving this message. You're in a dark place i guess? But you know there's light there, there's family who would be devastated to lose you. There's the years of retirement you were looking forward to. We're all going to go, let's go when it's the right time. And now isn't it
Don Barzini
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Hey mate. This is concerning to read. You don’t have to just put up with feeling this way. I speak from experience of exactly the same as you’ve described.
Please, I urge you to speak to someone. Friend, family, professional, whoever. There is so much help available out there and the first and hardest step is looking and asking for it.
But please, however you do it, ask for help.
Rlburnside
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Please keep talking to someone and remember there’s people who love you, wish you all the best mate.
rudebhoy
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Not sure if you are trying to be funny, but that’s not a helpful comment.
The “right time” is when ageing takes its natural course. I’m hoping this will be around the 90 mark for me.
Neilds
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This thread is not the one for petty arguments, point scoring, etc.
Can I request that the mods remove the posts from both posters and let the thread provide help and solace to those who need it.
Can I request that the mods remove the posts from both posters and let the thread provide help and solace to those who need it.
