Cyclists really are in their own world

[SteveW86]

Well....
My Orange Clockwork 19in, 1 inch steel frame is back on its original rigid forks, as I wore out the Manitou suspension I had fitted to it.
Its running XT 11-28 8 speed cassette and free body, Sachs chain, Suntour XC Pro front mech, shifters are Suntour XC Pro thumshifters, Suntour XC pro cranks (175) and 20 granny ring, Pace middle and big rings (32 and 44) . Royce titainium BB, X lite susp seat post and Selle Royal leather saddle (more like an armchair).
Dave Hinde built 26" wheels on Mavic 217 rims. Panaracer Smoke and Dart tyres. Front wheel is Mavic hub. X-Lite quick releases.
Brakes are DiaCompe levers, and cantilevers, with Eagle polybrake pads.

And then there's the Marin full susser

The Orange Clockwork....what a classic. I was lucky enough that my dad was friends with Lester Noble when I was growing up, so had a lot of early Orange bikes. I had a clockwork with 24 gears (first one I think back in 1991), then a C-16R. I think nearly 30 years later my dad is still uses his C-16R when pottering to the shops. We did have a Tushingham B52 around that time too.

Most recently I’ve had a Whyte T130 CRS, but only used it a couple of times.

 

[fundy]

Well....
My Orange Clockwork 19in, 1 inch steel frame is back on its original rigid forks, as I wore out the Manitou suspension I had fitted to it.
Its running XT 11-28 8 speed cassette and free body, Sachs chain, Suntour XC Pro front mech, shifters are Suntour XC Pro thumshifters, Suntour XC pro cranks (175) and 20 granny ring, Pace middle and big rings (32 and 44) . Royce titainium BB, X lite susp seat post and Selle Royal leather saddle (more like an armchair).
Dave Hinde built 26" wheels on Mavic 217 rims. Panaracer Smoke and Dart tyres. Front wheel is Mavic hub. X-Lite quick releases.
Brakes are DiaCompe levers, and cantilevers, with Eagle polybrake pads.

And then there's the Marin full susser

Mines a dark grey/black colour and says Giant on the side No lycra either (you'll all be pleased to hear!)

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Ha ha I was just about to say the exact opposite ?
If I'm walking ?, I find a little bell ? a perfectly polite way of attracting attention.

Another vote for a bell, speaking as a walker. Less aggressive than a shout from a distance.

 

[Griffsters]

Look at the size of the dedicated cycle lane ?. I've been to Germany and Holland, very briefly, and the separate lanes are a huge part of why they work. They are not just a marked stretch alongside a busy road, not really wide enough as in the UK. The lanes are wide, separate from vehicles and pedestrians, not just an add on. Until we replicate the designs we will not have the same positive outcome.

I'm sure you know the above, this is more for those who have never visited one of those countries.

Yes, the result of planning decisions made many many years ago. Its so difficult to change things now as we are such a car centric society. We should try tho, it will be difficult and progress will be slow as people generally don't like change. But long term it is the right thing to do. We must build in proper cycle infrastructure moving forward, as well as other initiatives to lower our dependence on cars. All IMHO of course!

 

[Hackers76]

Seen quite a few on Facebook posting about their 2, 3 and sometimes 4 hour bike rides. Seems the 1 hour exercise and essential travel only doesn’t seem to apply to cyclists.

 

[bluewolf]

Seen quite a few on Facebook posting about their 2, 3 and sometimes 4 hour bike rides. Seems the 1 hour exercise and essential travel only doesn’t seem to apply to cyclists.

I give up. I really do.........

 

[Griffsters]

I give up. I really do.........

..and round and round it goes. Haters gonna hate.

 

[CliveW]

Another vote for a bell, speaking as a walker. Less aggressive than a shout from a distance.

Playing card in the rear spokes for me!

 

[bluewolf]

..and round and round it goes. Haters gonna hate.

I just don’t have the energy to respond anymore. They’ve beaten me! I’m going to just sit in the front garden timing everyone who goes out just to make sure they abide by this mythical 1 hour limit. If they’re even 1 minute late I’m straight on the phone to the Police ?

 

[Robster59]

Devils advocate.. so your saying that lots of people choose to use a healthy, cheap and environmentally friendly mode of transport and the infrastructure is inadequate? Awesome..we agree!

Be careful in that several tonne hunk of metal, you could easily kill one of these sensible people!

I'm not sure where you got that inference. I'm saying that hardly any where obeying basic rules of the road, road with no consideration of road users, or pedestrians who were crossing legitimately at a pelican crossing. It's really very simple. If you're going to drive or ride on the road, you follow the highway code.

 

[Griffsters]

I'm not sure where you got that inference. I'm saying that hardly any where obeying basic rules of the road, road with no consideration of road users, or pedestrians who were crossing legitimately at a pelican crossing. It's really very simple. If you're going to drive or ride on the road, you follow the highway code.

Seems a pretty obvious line of thought to me? hey ho *shrugs*

 

[AmandaJR]

Another vote for a bell, speaking as a walker. Less aggressive than a shout from a distance.

I don't usually have one on my bike but this one is tiny so left it on and have found it very useful and does feel more polite somehow...ting ting!

 

[Deleted member 17920]

Perfectly good cycle paths to be used.

I wish there were more of them around.

Nearest one to my house is 20 miles away in Lincoln.

I wish we had the infrastructure for cycle paths like The Scandinavian countries, Germany and Holland but we will never have the money for that and we are just becoming more like America where car is king.

 

[ferenezejohn]

I sold my road bikes last year, was getting impossible to concentrate on traffic while avoiding potholes that could cause serious injury.
I live next to a cycle path that is ok if you want to do about 8 mph, full of dog walker's prams two and three abreast at times.
Once had a wee dog trying to bite my ankles at lochwinnock it's a busy bit with a lot of families out with the kids on bikes, this mutts off the lead so I stop and get a hold of it the owner a middle aged woman catches up she say sorry her dog doesn't like cyclists, so I asked why she's got it off the lead on a cycle path? Couldn't make it up.
My view is there's a lot of cyclists who don't have a clue and plenty drivers likewise.
It takes two to tango.

 

[woofers]

Different culture and mindset on the continent. A couple of years ago I took a guided sightseeing tour of Copenhagen on a bicycle which was fantastic, no problems between cyclists and other traffic, all the different road users seemed to know the relevant priorities and observed the courtesies.

Over here, every time I travel up the A24 dual carriageway north of Dorking, around Box Hill, despite there being a wide dedicated cycle track alongside the road, there are always cyclists using the road, usually the ‘serious’ type, you know, streamlined helmet, club lyric colours etc etc. Why?

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

I guess your level of fitness and preferred activity would go a long way to determining how long you should exercise for. 1 hour a day isn't much use to the likes of Chris Froome or Mo Farah.

 

[bluewolf]

In the first week of the lockdown, one of the government ministers was asked what was considered an acceptable time to be considered as "out exercising".
He replied something along the lines of up to an hour or so would be sufficient for people to fit in their exercise regime. "

That was the statement that has been taken by most people as the accepted period of time that is considered as exercise as opposed to being out on a jolly.

So there's no law, but it is the guideline that the majority are using.

I'm employed by the government, I have it in writing that our exercise in public should adhere to the 1 hour maximum, so it is not mythical.

As I’ve said several times. It was a comment by (I think) Michael Gove. It carries zero weight. If they want it in the rules then include it. If not then they must have a reason.

Until it’s specifically referenced then I’ll continue to take the time I need, whilst ensuring that I observe the actual rules regarding social distancing.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

So if you know about it, it's not mythical.

You are correct, it's not law, it's something the vast majority are respecting without being forced in to.

To be fair, how many of the 'vast majority' would exercise for an hour or more under normal circumstances?

 

[bluewolf]

So if you know about it, it's not mythical.

You are correct, it's not law, it's something the vast majority are respecting without being forced in to.

No, the fact that people think that it’s a law is what is mythical!

And (IMO obviously) the vast majority are not respecting it. The vast majority only ever spend up to an hour exercising. Those who regularly spend over an hour are still doing that.

If the hour is important, make it law. If it’s not, then leave it as is. What actually is important is social distancing.

 

[USER1999]

I guess your level of fitness and preferred activity would go a long way to determining how long you should exercise for. 1 hour a day isn't much use to the likes of Chris Froome or Mo Farah.

It's way too much for Usain Bolt though. 10 seconds is plenty apparently, and he walks the last bit.