Cyclists really are in their own world

[Bunkermagnet]

Agreed but they are in a 2mtr dedicated cycle lane ,something we don’t have much.
They even have their own traffic lights, you will find most obey them .
By now most major routes into city’s should have them ,but we don’t. Not here anyway.
Until government are serious about lanes nothing will change.
Never seen anyone holding a brolley cycling before though.

May I suggest the venerable gentleman visits the redsigned Elephant and Castle roundabout, London SE1. It's been totally redone with dedicated cycle lanes and trffic lights for them and cars. Whilst most cyclists use them, you still get quite a few that insist on using the roads, bus lanes and pavements. It can be a nightmare as a metal box driver, even when you are in your correct place and not exceeding the 20mph speed limit.
It just proves that there are idiots in all walks of life using all forms of transport and as a result, deaths and injuries will always be part of any transportation system.

 

[larmen]

Here you go Robin, just for you Freshly washed ready for my 3 hour ride later
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when I was active on a triathlon forum the comments would have been that your lawn needs cutting, the patio looks broken, is that a Landmann BBQ in the background?
The cranks should show forward, and you aren’t in your biggest gear!

Nice bike otherwise.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

when I was active on a triathlon forum the comments would have been that your lawn needs cutting, the patio looks broken, is that a Landmann BBQ in the background?
The cranks should show forward, and you aren’t in your biggest gear!

Nice bike otherwise.

Yes, I cut it the other day and it is growing like buggery right now.
It is, on my 'to do' list
No it's a cheap Asda BBQ
Apologies about the crank and gears

 

[Bunkermagnet]

Yes, I cut it the other day and it is growing like buggery right now.
It is, on my 'to do' list
No it's a cheap Asda BBQ
Apologies about the crank and gears

Shall we go all roady then?
What gear ratios and sizing you pushing?

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Shall we go all roady then?
What gear ratios and sizing you pushing?

Haha let's hijack the thread.

Bog standard Ultegra, not been changed since I bought the bike. It's a 2014 Focus Ergoride 2.0

https://www.thebikelist.co.uk/focus/izalco-ergoride-2-0-2014

Although it's a few years old now I've ridden several other bikes since I bought it and nothing feels as comfortable to me. It's a keeper for a few more years yet.

What are you 'gaming'?

 

[bobmac]

Hmmm - apparently whilst out on my one hour walk I’m not allowed to unlock and pop into my church building for ten minute to check that all is secure and well and have a little meditate as I walk round. No law breaking but what didn’t I understand ??

I know better now having undergone corrective treatment ?

So you go out for a wander but instead of going out into the countryside, you go into the village, pop into the shop for some chocolate and nuts and then on the way home, you nip in the church for a quick prayer and a singsong.
Is that what you call exercise?
And in case you missed it..........

'' Archbishops have written to clergy in support of the measures and again on 27 March, requiring that churches must now close both for private worship and public services. ''

 

[Lord Tyrion]

This exactly. People behave badly, no matter mode of transport or hobby. As a golfer I experience negative stereotypes, as a cyclist people actively nearly kill me and think its funny. Lots of people are arseholes, but most are pretty damned decent.

Meanwhile, this is what civilised society looks like at rush hour.

Look at the size of the dedicated cycle lane ?. I've been to Germany and Holland, very briefly, and the separate lanes are a huge part of why they work. They are not just a marked stretch alongside a busy road, not really wide enough as in the UK. The lanes are wide, separate from vehicles and pedestrians, not just an add on. Until we replicate the designs we will not have the same positive outcome.

I'm sure you know the above, this is more for those who have never visited one of those countries.

 

[bobmac]

Look at the size of the dedicated cycle lane ?. I've been to Germany and Holland, very briefly, and the separate lanes are a huge part of why they work. They are not just a marked stretch alongside a busy road, not really wide enough as in the UK. The lanes are wide, separate from vehicles and pedestrians, not just an add on. Until we replicate the designs we will not have the same positive outcome.

I'm sure you know the above, this is more for those who have never visited one of those countries.

Plus Holland is flat as a pancake so whole families go out together and kids learn at a young age that cycling is cool

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

This exactly. People behave badly, no matter mode of transport or hobby. As a golfer I experience negative stereotypes, as a cyclist people actively nearly kill me and think its funny. Lots of people are arseholes, but most are pretty damned decent.

Meanwhile, this is what civilised society looks like at rush hour.

Just think how congested those roads would be if all those cyclists were in cars

 

[Blue in Munich]

Agreed but they are in a 2mtr dedicated cycle lane ,something we don’t have much.
They even have their own traffic lights, you will find most obey them .
By now most major routes into city’s should have them ,but we don’t. Not here anyway.
Until government are serious about lanes nothing will change.
Never seen anyone holding a brolley cycling before though.

The huge difference between us & Holland is, I believe, that bicycles as mass transport have been with them for some time whereas they are relatively new to us. Consequently the infrastructure built up not allowing space for the same facilities & squeezing them in now is like trying to get a quart into a pint pot. It's been done locally by putting a route in alongside an A road & narrowing the A road. However any service failure in the A road and that road has to be closed to allow safe working space, which creates its own issues.

 

[Bunkermagnet]

Haha let's hijack the thread.

Bog standard Ultegra, not been changed since I bought the bike. It's a 2014 Focus Ergoride 2.0

https://www.thebikelist.co.uk/focus/izalco-ergoride-2-0-2014

Although it's a few years old now I've ridden several other bikes since I bought it and nothing feels as comfortable to me. It's a keeper for a few more years yet.

What are you 'gaming'?

Well....
My Orange Clockwork 19in, 1 inch steel frame is back on its original rigid forks, as I wore out the Manitou suspension I had fitted to it.
Its running XT 11-28 8 speed cassette and free body, Sachs chain, Suntour XC Pro front mech, shifters are Suntour XC Pro thumshifters, Suntour XC pro cranks (175) and 20 granny ring, Pace middle and big rings (32 and 44) . Royce titainium BB, X lite susp seat post and Selle Royal leather saddle (more like an armchair).
Dave Hinde built 26" wheels on Mavic 217 rims. Panaracer Smoke and Dart tyres. Front wheel is Mavic hub. X-Lite quick releases.
Brakes are DiaCompe levers, and cantilevers, with Eagle polybrake pads.

And then there's the Marin full susser

 

[Bunkermagnet]

Does it have a jingly bell ? or a honky horn ??

Neither, a rider than shouts when needed

 

[CliveW]

Here you go Robin, just for you Freshly washed ready for my 3 hour ride later
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Love the sidecar!

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Well....
My Orange Clockwork 19in, 1 inch steel frame is back on its original rigid forks, as I wore out the Manitou suspension I had fitted to it.
Its running XT 11-28 8 speed cassette and free body, Sachs chain, Suntour XC Pro front mech, shifters are Suntour XC Pro thumshifters, Suntour XC pro cranks (175) and 20 granny ring, Pace middle and big rings (32 and 44) . Royce titainium BB, X lite susp seat post and Selle Royal leather saddle (more like an armchair).
Dave Hinde built 26" wheels on Mavic 217 rims. Panaracer Smoke and Dart tyres. Front wheel is Mavic hub. X-Lite quick releases.
Brakes are DiaCompe levers, and cantilevers, with Eagle polybrake pads.

And then there's the Marin full susser

Post some pics

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Most New Towns have a decent cycle lane structure North and West Swindon being good examples.
I was involved with parts of the The Nationwide head office plans which incorporated a track to allow the public to basically cycle from West Swindon to East Swindon [approx. 6 miles without traveling on a road]
This also had the added advantage of being incorporated into Marathon and half marathon routes and was well used by joggers.
Older towns\cities need to make their centres more cyclist friendly and less car friendly, tough love needed.

 

[Slab]

This exactly. People behave badly, no matter mode of transport or hobby. As a golfer I experience negative stereotypes, as a cyclist people actively nearly kill me and think its funny. Lots of people are arseholes, but most are pretty damned decent.

Meanwhile, this is what civilised society looks like at rush hour.

That is a helluva lot of people who couldn't pass the driving test!

 

[AmandaJR]

Neither, a rider than shouts when needed

I have one of those tiny ting ting bells and have to say it has been useful lately as there are so many cycling and walking locally.

 

[Bunkermagnet]

I have one of those tiny ting ting bells and have to say it has been useful lately as there are so many cycling and walking locally.

I have always found a polite"excuse me" better than the ting of a bell.

 

[Jacko_G]

Perfectly good cycle paths to be used.

 

[fundy]

Perfectly good cycle paths to be used.

one of the few things I do miss about living in Milton Keynes is the redways system that made cycling so much easier and safer