Cyclists really are in their own world

[Neilds]

No, the fact that people think that it’s a law is what is mythical!

And (IMO obviously) the vast majority are not respecting it. The vast majority only ever spend up to an hour exercising. Those who regularly spend over an hour are still doing that.

If the hour is important, make it law. If it’s not, then leave it as is. What actually is important is social distancing.

But you can also still go outside once a day for a walk, run, cycle. When doing this you must minimise the time you are out of your home and stay at least two metres away from anyone else that isn’t from your household.

Above is a direct post from the Gov.uk website. It still says you should minimise the time spent outside and this, in my view, makes people who spend 2-3 hours outside anti social. In cases like this, you should stick to the spirit of the guidance as well as the letter of the law

 

[bluewolf]

But you can also still go outside once a day for a walk, run, cycle. When doing this you must minimise the time you are out of your home and stay at least two metres away from anyone else that isn’t from your household.

Above is a direct post from the Gov.uk website. It still says you should minimise the time spent outside and this, in my view, makes people who spend 2-3 hours outside anti social. In cases like this, you should stick to the spirit of the guidance as well as the letter of the law

What the minimum is for you will be different from someone else. The minimum bike time for me is 1-2 hours. The minimum run time is 60 - 90 minutes. That’s what I need for my health (as advised by my cardiologist). I’m more than happy for you to follow whatever guidelines you want. I’ll stick to the rules. ?

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

It’s so frustrating - just back from our one hour walk and spent so much time watching out for cyclists tearing up behind us without any warning or tearing towards us. Do they not know what a bell is for? Have they forgotten where their ‘pause’ button is? Same applies to most runners. Frustrating...

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

It’s so frustrating - just back from our one hour walk and spent so much time watching out for cyclists tearing up behind us without any warning or tearing towards us. Do they not know what a bell is for? Have they forgotten where their ‘pause’ button is? Same applies to most runners. Frustrating...

Were you walking on the road or pavement?

 

[pokerjoke]

It’s so frustrating - just back from our one hour walk and spent so much time watching out for cyclists tearing up behind us without any warning or tearing towards us. Do they not know what a bell is for? Have they forgotten where their ‘pause’ button is? Same applies to most runners. Frustrating...

717 people would prefer to be in your shoes today.
Please do us all a favour and take a day off

 

[User20205]

717 people would prefer to be in your shoes today.
Please do us all a favour and take a day off

Is there a 3rd option?

 

[bluewolf]

In the interests of not going round in circles, I’m going to duck out of this thread now. I’m more than happy for people to follow whatever guidelines they feel best suits their lifestyle, as long as they follow the social distancing rules.

As someone who is at a higher risk (but not high enough to have to isolate for 12 weeks thankfully) then I know what I need to do to protect myself and my family. I’m going to continue doing that until told that I can’t.

Stay safe everyone ?

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

You should have ducked into church to escape them ?

I didn’t have my key with me...

 

[Neilds]

What the minimum is for you will be different from someone else. The minimum bike time for me is 1-2 hours. The minimum run time is 60 - 90 minutes. That’s what I need for my health (as advised by my cardiologist). I’m more than happy for you to follow whatever guidelines you want. I’ll stick to the rules. ?

So guidelines from cardiologist are to be followed to the letter, but government ( medical) guidelines can be ignored.....

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

717 people would prefer to be in your shoes today.
Please do us all a favour and take a day off

What??????

this is a thread specifically about cyclists...and so I commented on my experience of cyclists today, explain what I did wrong please.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Were you walking on the road or pavement?

I was walking along footpaths.

 

[bluewolf]

So guidelines from cardiologist are to be followed to the letter, but government ( medical) guidelines can be ignored.....

And I’m back in the room ?

Advice from MY cardiologist who best knows MY condition on how best to live within the Government rules.

Unless you think the Government know me personally and can advise me better?

 

[User20205]

So guidelines from cardiologist are to be followed to the letter, but government ( medical) guidelines can be ignored.....

The govt guidelines aren’t ‘medical’ re exercise. It’s an arbitrary time measurement plucked out of the air

 

[Imurg]

To my mind the "minimising the amount of time you're outside" is exactly that.
If Bluey needs a couple of hours to get the exercise his ticker needs then taking 3 hours or more wouldn't be minimising his exposure.
I'm happy with half an hour to an hour's walk....so if I jgo hiking over the fields for 4 hours then I'm taking the proverbial.....
Some are exploiting things and staying outside longer than they need....does a peloton really need a 4 hour ride? Does a horse rider need more than a couple of hours?
Does the dog need more than an hour?
The advice is to minimise the amount of time you're exercising outside. That doesn't mean take an hour or two more than you need

 

[pokerjoke]

What??????

this is a thread specifically about cyclists...and so I commented on my experience of cyclists today, explain what I did wrong please.

You did nothing wrong
However in this hour of need I do think some people get caught up in there own importance (that’s not aimed at you at all but in general.
717 people died today and would gladly be walking around get peeved by cyclists.

 

[clubchamp98]

Hmmm - apparently whilst out on my one hour walk I’m not allowed to unlock and pop into my church building for ten minute to check that all is secure and well and have a little meditate as I walk round. No law breaking but what didn’t I understand ??

I know better now having undergone corrective treatment ?

There are some things you should just keep to yourself!
Or between you and your God.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

I was walking along footpaths.

Fair enough, cycling on pavements is naughty.

 

[clubchamp98]

May I suggest the venerable gentleman visits the redsigned Elephant and Castle roundabout, London SE1. It's been totally redone with dedicated cycle lanes and trffic lights for them and cars. Whilst most cyclists use them, you still get quite a few that insist on using the roads, bus lanes and pavements. It can be a nightmare as a metal box driver, even when you are in your correct place and not exceeding the 20mph speed limit.
It just proves that there are idiots in all walks of life using all forms of transport and as a result, deaths and injuries will always be part of any transportation system.

Yes but that’s no good to me in Liverpool.
We have very few proper cycle lanes.
We need a Minister for cycling!

 

[clubchamp98]

The huge difference between us & Holland is, I believe, that bicycles as mass transport have been with them for some time whereas they are relatively new to us. Consequently the infrastructure built up not allowing space for the same facilities & squeezing them in now is like trying to get a quart into a pint pot. It's been done locally by putting a route in alongside an A road & narrowing the A road. However any service failure in the A road and that road has to be closed to allow safe working space, which creates its own issues.

Yes I agree.
But we have been having this discussion for over 30 yrs.
I have a cycle way at the back of my house that will take me from Liverpool to HULL
I CANT GET TO Liverpool town centre without going on a major road.
We need them to get us to work and back.
There is very little will nowadays.
Down to budgets.

 

[clubchamp98]

Ha ha I was just about to say the exact opposite ?
If I'm walking ?, I find a little bell ? a perfectly polite way of attracting attention.

Except people wearing headphones.
Who then complain you frightened them!