Kellfire
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Defend that. Embarrassing.
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I've not seen all the detail but where would it stand against what was an essential journey?
Mandofred
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I think I might use this cartoon a lot on this site....
huds1475
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Its simple advice.
The majority of the country will understand it.
It's the government's job to look after the country, not each individual.
As an individual, you (or I) are asked to read the advice and act on it.
I don't see it anywhere saying "Stay home as much as possible. And whilst you're at it, whine about what other people might/might not do".
Foxholer
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H'mm! Isn't that the epitome of 'conservative'? Note the small 'c'!
To be fair, you know the answer, you have suggested as much. We all really know how the rules or guidelines work, people just look to bend them to suit. If you are stretching something to the nth degree then you know that your interpretation of the rules is questionable. (Please do not take my use of you or your as being directed at you. I am using it in general terms ?)
ColchesterFC
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Blue in Munich
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Yes.
huds1475
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I thought they were his preferred pronouns!
HomerJSimpson
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The problem is people are and will definitely from this week, bend the rules as much as possible. In the case SILH gives I wouldn't class a 170 mile trip (assume that's 340 miles in both directions) as essential even for a 90th birthday and if the police were to stop him for any reason I would suggest they wouldn't see it as such. Not a pick at SILH and I am certain there are far worse examples out there. The issue as I see it in a very simple basis is the more interaction we have, even at work with PPE or government advice followed (or not) then the R number is going to rise as is happening in Germany and we're either back to a lockdown similar to the one we have (or more severe even) and more hospital admissions and deaths increasing
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Health is a devolved matter to 3 of the UK nations but the 4th England doesn't have devolution from UK so is left feeling a bit aggrieved, I get that.
If it was a defence matter for example which isn't devolved there would be a UK only response.
Devolution (but not for England) is a problem created by New Labour in the 90s and for parity I think England should have devolution too via 3 or 4 regional govt assemblies with devolved powers and therefore reduce UK parliament size and MP numbers right back to only deal with whole UK issues. Federalism.
No way Scotland, Wales, NI are giving up devolved powers without a fight, that ship has sailed, but yes England are not treated fairly in this arrangement at present.
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I think you're splitting hairs there. Imo it shouldve been right we propose x,y and z then they voted on the course of Action and ran with it as a whole nation.
This course of action will just divide us.
Old Skier
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And return the same day, enjoy your trip.
rosecott
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Susanna Reid and Robert Peston in complete agreement - no further discussion.
rosecott
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Are you suggesting a referendum?
Old Skier
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Depends whether small c conservatives are thought of the same way by those that think Tory stands for right wing extremists.
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No, this isn’t the time for party politics. Instead unity is strength. Stick together and fight it as one.
Or maybe this is what the conservatives want, using their usual divide and conquer tactics ?
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It saddens me that the media and the whole of parliament could not come together at this time for the benefit of the country.
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