CONGU - End discrimination in golf competitions

[BillJones4080]

I read with a smile that David Bernstein, David Davies, Greg Dyke, Alex Horne and David Triesman believe the FA is run by elderly white men, and that suggestions for improvement are systematically road-blocked often before discussion.

They could so easily have been describing golf.

So much for freedom of speech, equality, and removing discrimination.

Every golf club member can obtain an authorised handicap, and then compete equitably world-wide regardless of golfing prowess.

However, the rules of golf allow clubs to have competitions with a maximum allowance of say 18 for men. This means one chap who scored 4 more than his/her handicap could hand in a scorecard with say 90-16=74. Another golfer with a handicap of 28 who scores 4 better than his handicap would write 94-18=76. Guess what, the player who played worse relative to his handicap would win!!

If anyone feels the rules should be changed (for both men and women), please sign the petition to persuade CONGU to End DISCRIMINATION in golf competitions: https://www.change.org/p/congu-end-discrimination-in-golf-competitions

 

[turkish]

Private members clubs can do what they like.... if you don't like it join another club. Our clubs medals are full handicap but the roll ups are sometimes max 18

 

[Mike07]

Well times are changing! Slavery has been abolished, women can vote, and equality is a key part of modern society

Seriously..?

 

[davemc1]

'No man with 2 arms and 2 legs should ever have more than one shot per hole'

😂😂

 

[Fish]

'No man with 2 arms and 2 legs should ever have more than one shot per hole'

😂😂

I'll remind you of this after your next 9 x 0.1's 😜🏌️

 

[Craigg]

'No man with 2 arms and 2 legs should ever have more than one shot per hole'

😂😂

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This. If I had my way all competitive golf would be 18 max.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

:rofl:

It's way to early for April Fool

Far too funny

 

[PhilTheFragger]

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This. If I had my way all competitive golf would be 18 max.

Why? What's your reasoning apart from being elitist?

I'm off 19, why shouldn't I be allowed to enter handicap comps / roll ups

Golf is for everyone

As for the OP. Seriously?

 

[El Diablo]

Only handicap limit comps we have are the ones for those 19+ which the rest of us cannot enter ......

 

[bluewolf]

Only handicap limit comps we have are the ones for those 19+ which the rest of us cannot enter ......

Smacks of elitism to me :rofl:

 

[Tashyboy]

First of all Morning Bill and welcome to the forum.

To an extent I believe what you say re old doods running golf, but the same could be said of cricket, football deffo, rugby, in fact most sports within this country. It is old Skool. I have said the hcap system works well, but for me even if you win a comp under hcap score, you should be docked. Don't think it should be radically altered though.

 

[bobmac]

'No man with 2 arms and 2 legs should ever have more than one shot per hole'



Never mind, soon they will be able to get 2 shots per hole, full h/cap in knock outs and be able to enter their own scores under the USGA system.

60 points anybody?

 

[Lord Tyrion]

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This. If I had my way all competitive golf would be 18 max.

Great, that means a cut :whoo:

 

[lukeysafc100]

All the medals and competitions at my golf club have a maximum 28 allowance! Except for the Scratch ones obviously!

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

There are valid reasons for competitions having a max handicap allowance and I agree with them, sounds to me that you may have a chip on your shoulder?

As a matter of interest, what is your handicap Bill?

Sorry but I won't be signing your petition.

 

[Wabinez]

So, the player who takes less shots wins. Shock horror. How haven't we picked up on this before?!

 

[delc]

We had a 36 handicap man playing in our last club Seniors qualifier, as allowed by the latest CONGU Handicap rules. He still came nowhere near winning because he is a rubbish golfer! Doesn't stop him enjoying the game and benefitting from the walk though.

 

[Craigg]

Why? What's your reasoning apart from being elitist?

Very presumptuous of you to call me elitist when you don't know me. My reasoning is simple and has been discussed many times before I should think. 28 handicapper playing a 5 handicapper receiving 2 shots on a par 3 hole in matchplay. May as well give him the hole and move on.

I'm off 19, why shouldn't I be allowed to enter handicap comps / roll ups

I didn't say you couldn't enter. Maybe I worded it wrongly. There should be a definite divisional cut off point of 18 across the board. You are still free to enter the lower division regardless of your handicap, but you must play off 18.

Golf is for everyone

Absolutely agree, but if you are serious about winning competitions, then you will put the work in and improve. There comes a point when the handicap system starts stacking up unfairly against the golfer who has put countless hours of practice in and has achieved a low handicap, and I believe that point to be at 2 shots per hole. Just my opinions so don't count for much really, but that is how I see it.

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[HawkeyeMS]

What does it have to do with CONGU? If a club wants to limit the handicap for a competition that's up to the club and nothing to do with CONGU. Full handicaps are still used for calculating adjustments.

 

[LincolnShep]

There should be a definite divisional cut off point of 18 across the board. You are still free to enter the lower division regardless of your handicap, but you must play off 18.

Why 18? Seems somewhat arbitrary. Why is one shot a hole OK but 1.06 shots per hole not OK? Is there some basis to the limit you're suggesting or have you just picked that number because it makes the maths easy? What would the impact be on participation if 18 were the competitive limit?

Presumably you have a handicap yourself, do you think that those with a lower handicap resent you for not "putting the work in" but still being able to win now and again?

Club golf, on the whole, is a handicap game - it's fundamental. I presume (although I've never checked!) that there are scratch competitions out there for people who don't agree with the principal of a competition being won by anyone other than the best golfer.