Confused about h/c

[Rlburnside]

This week I shoot a gross 82 my best score for 3-4 years and obviously my best out of 8 counting scores.

Expecting a cut I was surprised my h/c went up .4.

I did play an easy course but I played off 13 h/c as opposed to my normal 18.3 h/c.

I had my previous best score drop out which was 85.

So why the increase

 

[backwoodsman]

First thing to do is see what the relevant Score Differentials are for each round (rather than the adjusted gross score).

To me, it looks like you were playing a course that was supposedly 5 shots 'easier' but only managed a score 3 shots better than your best round.

 

[Swango1980]

As backswoodsman said.

Your gross score isn't really relevant, unless you always play the same course and the same tees, then it can be used to compare to other rounds (changes to PCC aside).

Always look at your Score Differential instead. That is the number that is used to work out your Index.
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An 82 off the back tees at Carnoustie would get a very low Score Diff. Whereas at a very easy course (low ratings) it would be much higher.

You already stated you got a full 5 shots less on your Course Handicap, so you'd generally be expected to shoot much better scores on the course you had an 82 on.

 

[Rlburnside]

First thing to do is see what the relevant Score Differentials are for each round (rather than the adjusted gross score).

To me, it looks like you were playing a course that was supposedly 5 shots 'easier' but only managed a score 3 shots better than your best round.

Score differentials were my home course - 85- score diff 12.9. Away course 82- score diff. 16.4.

 

[Neilds]

Score differentials were my home course - 85- score diff 12.9. Away course 82- score diff. 16.4.

So, as mentioned, despite scoring better you actually played worse, hence the increase.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Score differentials were my home course - 85- score diff 12.9. Away course 82- score diff. 16.4.

The difference with the score differential is 4 so you will go up by .4

It is all very different now - HC all calculated by SD

I have gone up by .1 despite playing better than my HI , a score differential of -1.3 came off as opposed to the .3 I scored yesterday

 

[Voyager EMH]

In May last year, I played in a seniors comp in the rain when our course was quite boggy with no run.
I won the comp with 35 points and went up by 0.5 as my best score from previous year dropped off.

I did not set out to do so, but I have learnt all the Score Differentials for gross scores from 70 to 80 on my course. (Par 70, CR 70.8, SR 132)
Score Differential is the "what-I-played-to score" in my mind. By far the better indicator than gross score, nett score or stableford points.

 

[DickInShorts]

Surely 36 Stableford points on any course is the target to play to your handicap since CR-Par was introduced?
NB this is based on your Course Handicap

 

[Swango1980]

Surely 36 Stableford points on any course is the target to play to your handicap since CR-Par was introduced?
NB this is based on your Course Handicap

Yeah, or nett score relative to Par.

But the OP simply stated gross score, which has no meaning when nothing else is known regarding the ratings.

Had he shared his score as Stableford Points, it may be more clearer. His 82 may have got him (just pulling numbers out of the air for the example) 36 points, whereas an 83 at his main course could get him 40 points.

 

[Voyager EMH]

Usually, my "target score" is to beat my 8th best. I might be doing this sometimes with 34 points scored.
But I don't think about the points or the net score.
I think about gross score and the consequential score differential in terms of playing to or lowering my handicap.

 

[Orikoru]

Score differentials were my home course - 85- score diff 12.9. Away course 82- score diff. 16.4.

There you go then. Your 82 was actually 3 shots worse than your 85, rather than 3 shots better. All because of course ratings - which are all perfect and correct and should never be questioned.

 

[rulefan]

Oh Ye of little faith

 

[Voyager EMH]

Yeah, or nett score relative to Par.

But the OP simply stated gross score, which has no meaning when nothing else is known regarding the ratings.

Had he shared his score as Stableford Points, it may be more clearer. His 82 may have got him (just pulling numbers out of the air for the example) 36 points, whereas an 83 at his main course could get him 40 points.

Many do this on here, but it often remains unclear whether they have used 100% CH in calculating their points or the points scored in a competition with 95% CH.

If someone quotes their SD, then it is very clear what they played to.

 

[Swango1980]

Many do this on here, but it often remains unclear whether they have used 100% CH in calculating their points or the points scored in a competition with 95% CH.

If someone quotes their SD, then it is very clear what they played to.

This is true. I was simply suggesting that if a Stableford score was mentioned, it would be a little more telling that simply a gross score. Obviously, if one really wants to drill into the exact detail of the calculation, then SD is the number you want.

 

[Rlburnside]

Yeah, or nett score relative to Par.

But the OP simply stated gross score, which has no meaning when nothing else is known regarding the ratings.

Had he shared his score as Stableford Points, it may be more clearer. His 82 may have got him (just pulling numbers out of the air for the example) 36 points, whereas an 83 at his main course could get him 40 points.

I had 39 points

 

[Rlburnside]

There you go then. Your 82 was actually 3 shots worse than your 85, rather than 3 shots better. All because of course ratings - which are all perfect and correct and should never be questioned.

Oh those course ratings were correct easiest course I’ve played, Seaford Head nr Brighton.
3rd hole was 306 yards downhill par 4 and I drove through the green to about 315.

 

[Swango1980]

I had 39 points

Would an 82 at your regular course score you 44 points (using course handicap)?

 

[Rlburnside]

Would an 82 at your regular course score you 44 points (using course handicap)?

Not sure how I would work that out but my other round at home course when I had gross 85 I would have had 42 points playing off 20

 

[Voyager EMH]

Surely 36 Stableford points on any course is the target to play to your handicap since CR-Par was introduced?
NB this is based on your Course Handicap

If I score 36 points in tomorrow's comp, it will equal my second best score of my last 20. I've done better than that only once in the last 20 scores.
If I equal my best score, I will get 37 points.
Having a target score of 36 points means I will expect to fail 17 times out of 20. And I do.

Not in chronological order my 8 best SDs are,
2.7 - 3.6 - 3.6 - 4.5 - 4.5 - 4.5 - 4.5 - 5.3

 

[rulie]

Would an 82 at your regular course score you 44 points (using course handicap)?

Doesn't one need individual hole scores to determine Stableford points?