ScienceBoy
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Just read my post again... you can tell I am a scientist
Chip OR Pitch
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Oddsocks
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Never used to be able to putt from off the green either, just move the ball to right off the front foot so your effectively hitting it on the upstroke and job done.
Science boy is just about bang on with he's post on the pottom of page one, but for some unknown reason after that post i can help but image him to be the weird scientist out of the futurama cartoon. Sorry fella.
richart
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Putting from off the green is much easier on links courses, and those with tight aprons. The pace off the green is then not dissimilar to on the green. Wet lush fringes (for some reason that sounds dirty 
) are much harder to judge, and better to chip over.
) are much harder to judge, and better to chip over.The_LHC
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Never used to be able to putt from off the green either, just move the ball to right off the front foot so your effectively hitting it on the upstroke and job done.
Ummm, I was always under the impression you're supposed to be hitting the ball on the upstroke of the putt anyway, you certainly don't want to be hitting it on the downstroke. As it is I pretty much putt from off my left foot anyway (just inside the big toe).
Hmmm, not sure about that either, I would always say a chip and run is usually done with something less than a PW, typically a 7-iron. If I'm using 60deg wedge then it's not really a chip shot unless it's a very short edge of the green shot but I'm not sure why I'd be using a 60deg wedge in that situation?
I tend to think of pitches as being longer shots to be honest, with chips more from the edge of the green where the ground isn't suitable for putting.
viscount17
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Oddsocks
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Hmmm, not sure about that either, I would always say a chip and run is usually done with something less than a PW, typically a 7-iron. If I'm using 60deg wedge then it's not really a chip shot unless it's a very short edge of the green shot but I'm not sure why I'd be using a 60deg wedge in that situation?
I tend to think of pitches as being longer shots to be honest, with chips more from the edge of the green where the ground isn't suitable for putting.
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i tend to pitch with my 52* vokey with a slightly closed face, for some reason chiping with the TM Stock wedge from my set isnt as reliable. But i agree no chipping with a 60* unless im lobbing a green side bunker or grassy bump/hole.
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I've always thought that you hit short chip shots and mid to long range pitch shots.
RGDave
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Isn't a chip something smiffy likes with gravy? (or do I remember wrong). A pitch is what you play football on and a golf shot I rarely play.
I'm not sure I've heard of a pitch and run. The point of a pitch is to stop the ball sharpish.
I'm not sure I've heard of a pitch and run. The point of a pitch is to stop the ball sharpish.
ScienceBoy
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LHC, not to sound argumentative but I didn't mention chip and run, I just said chip. I totally agree with you, chip and run is with a 7 or 8 as it has pretty much no flight, chip is done around the green and has at least equal roll to flight, if not more. With the most lofted clubs once you start flying it more than 3/4 to the hole, it could be called a flop (on flat green).
I only use a chip and run when I need roll on roll on roll... ie undulating green where picking a landing area is impossible (I focus on that as I know the roll ratio) or coming out from under a bush.
There are some situations that require no flight at all and others that knowing how much flight and run is very important. My MP T-10 wedges are fantastic for around the green, knowing my roll to flight ratio revolutionised my short game! I shot two rounds of 84 within two weeks off a 16 hdcp. One in a competition too! Both just a few weeks after a lesson off it from the pro and time spent in the practice areas.
I have my first honours board competition on Sunday, my iron play has collapsed recently (since I started thinking about getting a new set) so if it all comes together you never know!
BTW guys I am 25... hence the name ScienceBOY ie trying to suggest I am NOT old
I only use a chip and run when I need roll on roll on roll... ie undulating green where picking a landing area is impossible (I focus on that as I know the roll ratio) or coming out from under a bush.
There are some situations that require no flight at all and others that knowing how much flight and run is very important. My MP T-10 wedges are fantastic for around the green, knowing my roll to flight ratio revolutionised my short game! I shot two rounds of 84 within two weeks off a 16 hdcp. One in a competition too! Both just a few weeks after a lesson off it from the pro and time spent in the practice areas.
I have my first honours board competition on Sunday, my iron play has collapsed recently (since I started thinking about getting a new set) so if it all comes together you never know!
BTW guys I am 25... hence the name ScienceBOY ie trying to suggest I am NOT old
RGDave
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Can't agree on that. A 20 yard SW that stops 2nd bounce and has little roll is not a flop. It's a pitch.
A chip includes run (by it's nature)
A pitch is higher and longer (more often than not) with much less roll (%)
A flop is for world superstars or mad choppers with too big an ego.
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What class do I fit in then???
Seeing as I lob it quite often!
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What class do I fit in then???
Seeing as I lob it quite often!
richart
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LHC, not to sound argumentative but I didn't mention chip and run, I just said chip. I totally agree with you, chip and run is with a 7 or 8 as it has pretty much no flight, chip is done around the green and has at least equal roll to flight, if not more. With the most lofted clubs once you start flying it more than 3/4 to the hole, it could be called a flop (on flat green).
I only use a chip and run when I need roll on roll on roll... ie undulating green where picking a landing area is impossible (I focus on that as I know the roll ratio) or coming out from under a bush.
There are some situations that require no flight at all and others that knowing how much flight and run is very important. My MP T-10 wedges are fantastic for around the green, knowing my roll to flight ratio revolutionised my short game! I shot two rounds of 84 within two weeks off a 16 hdcp. One in a competition too! Both just a few weeks after a lesson off it from the pro and time spent in the practice areas.
I have my first honours board competition on Sunday, my iron play has collapsed recently (since I started thinking about getting a new set) so if it all comes together you never know!
BTW guys I am 25... hence the name ScienceBOY ie trying to suggest I am NOT old
Too subtle. Perhaps you should change to Science(not a fossil like some on here)Boy.
ScienceBoy
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Yeah thinking about it I am wrong on the flop thing... Got a bit carried away and didn't think of that! I agree with your example. I was thinking more of a 60 open faced shot, I can do those perfect in the short game practice area (only).
And guys, it seems most people do not agree with me.. I think I will take that as a hit to stop babbling
And guys, it seems most people do not agree with me.. I think I will take that as a hit to stop babbling
RGDave
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Yes, but your Lob Wedge shots work, unlike almost every other player.
Your LW shots are world superstar, like your driving when you're on form too.
It's your 240 yard hybrid specials that are hit and miss, except on this hole.
Anyone laying up between the water and bunker (just short of the green and corner of lake) from further than the human eye can see deserves a mention.
