Caroline Flack

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Unfortunately a lot of these "celebraties" crave game and attention and to a point bring things upon themselves, a kind of ying and yang thing.
Unfortunately this is true. They are constantly feeding these magazines, social media etc as that is how they get their income, raise their profile. A good number have no or limited entertainment talent and rely on self publicity to generate interest. They are feeding the beast that will eventually eat them.
 
Unfortunately this is true. They are constantly feeding these magazines, social media etc as that is how they get their income, raise their profile. A good number have no or limited entertainment talent and rely on self publicity to generate interest. They are feeding the beast that will eventually eat them.
There’s a line between their personal life and career, undoubtably the “celebrity” will cross that line at times, but the media still control the publication and exposure and seem to take no responsibility for their own behaviour.
 
There’s a line between their personal life and career, undoubtably the “celebrity” will cross that line at times, but the media still control the publication and exposure and seem to take no responsibility for their own behaviour.
I quite agree. My reply was largely aimed at the post regarding the Closer magazine cover. All of the people on there, perhaps with the exception of Holly W., feed the magazines and social media constantly. You can't turn that tap on and off just because a story suits you. For some of them the bad times simply open up the potential of a redemption arc and a whole new batch of pubilicity, stories, free holidays etc. The lines of personal and public have been blurred by their own actions.
 
I quite agree. My reply was largely aimed at the post regarding the Closer magazine cover. All of the people on there, perhaps with the exception of Holly W., feed the magazines and social media constantly. You can't turn that tap on and off just because a story suits you. For some of them the bad times simply open up the potential of a redemption arc and a whole new batch of pubilicity, stories, free holidays etc. The lines of personal and public have been blurred by their own actions.
Sorry mate, how do you know those people constantly feed the magazines and social media, there are numerous stories of friends and families going behind their backs or the press going beyond the story etc.

I wholeheartedly agree the “celebrity” has to take some responsibility, but the press needs to take more, plus I’ll add the sado’s that but the mags etc need to take a look at themselves.
 
Sorry mate, how do you know those people constantly feed the magazines and social media, there are numerous stories of friends and families going behind their backs or the press going beyond the story etc.

I wholeheartedly agree the “celebrity” has to take some responsibility, but the press needs to take more, plus I’ll add the sado’s that but the mags etc need to take a look at themselves.
Having watched the odd 'behind the scenes' programme on PR companies, listened to people involved in the entertainment and media industry, you will find that a good number of certain people have a very close, symbiotic relationship with the press (good word for a Thursday that). They go hand in hand together, same as politicians and political journo's. There will certainly be stories that the celebs do not want out there and they have no control over but a good number are fed by their own PR company to keep them in the public eye.

Not everyone is involved in that game but I think you can see pretty clearly who does and who does not play the game. Plenty of celebs at all levels live normal lives out of the limelight, it is possible to do.

No idea why people buy those mags other than the need for gossip, to either see how someones life is falling apart (makes the reader feel better about their life?), or to see something they perceive as glamorous and an escape. Never bought one, never will.
 
Unfortunately the media like controversy and want 'good looking' photogenic candidates (often female) . The so-called 'Reality' shows/stories can often catapult and bring into focus vulnerable, attention seeking individuals who suddenly realise they are just canon fodder. The cash and hype they gain and subsequent anti-climax they can frequently experience easily leads to the 'imposter' syndrome adding to their turmoil.

The entertainment industry is a ruthless business model where only a very small minority enjoy a robust and continuing career/lifestyle.
 
Saw the unissued inastagram statement last night and truly moving and sad that she had got to such a low point and really felt there was nowhere left to go
There’s also every chance she was never going to release it and/or it’s embellished or includes lies. A dead person can still have lied.
 
That is just horrible. My thoughts about him are largely unpleasant ones and I hope Karma truly exists.

I am guessing GDPR rules don't apply in these situations as LW clearly does not give consent.

GDPR has absolutely nothing to do with being photographed in a public place.

Not saying it's right btw, I hate the way the Paparazzi bother people constantly in exactly this sort of way.
 
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GDPR has absolutely nothing to do with being photographed in a public place.

Not saying it's right btw, I hate the way the Paparazzi bother people constantly in exactly this sort of way.
I thought not, stupid suggestion of mine ?. I also read a piece later that advised it is legal to take pictures of anyone in a public place in S.Africa, he didn't need any form of permission. Still doesn't make him less of a scrote. Paps don't do humanity I don't think.
 
The press is full of sanctimonious hand-wringing coverage of this. There were approximately 20 suicides the day she killed herself. I imagine few of the other 19 had lamped their sleeping partner and had a 999 visit from the cops and court pending. This event is the root cause of the bad outcome which followed, and it is entirely unsurprising that the media, which Love Island and other trashy TV programmes feed, turned on her. She is reported to have been very concerned about the police body cam pictures of the scene after the 999 call being shown in court. I hate The Sun and other trashy tabloids, but they really aren't the cause or the underlying problem here. The problem is the voyeuristic sensationalist TV and the way it panders to clicks and media coverage.

Some people draw parallels with Princess Di. But the cause for her death was not putting on a seatbelt and letting herself be driven through city tunnels ay 100 mph by a drunk driver in a car which had been written off a couple of years before after a previous high sped collision and should not have been put back on the road. A few paps on scooters didn't kill her.
 
The press is full of sanctimonious hand-wringing coverage of this. There were approximately 20 suicides the day she killed herself. I imagine few of the other 19 had lamped their sleeping partner and had a 999 visit from the cops and court pending. This event is the root cause of the bad outcome which followed, and it is entirely unsurprising that the media, which Love Island and other trashy TV programmes feed, turned on her. She is reported to have been very concerned about the police body cam pictures of the scene after the 999 call being shown in court. I hate The Sun and other trashy tabloids, but they really aren't the cause or the underlying problem here. The problem is the voyeuristic sensationalist TV and the way it panders to clicks and media coverage.

Some people draw parallels with Princess Di. But the cause for her death was not putting on a seatbelt and letting herself be driven through city tunnels ay 100 mph by a drunk driver in a car which had been written off a couple of years before after a previous high sped collision and should not have been put back on the road. A few paps on scooters didn't kill her.

But can't you throw exactly the same criticism of the trashy tabloids (and you could argue more and more allegedly upmarket papers nowadays) in that they are mostly engaged in sensationalism and all they predominately care about nowadays is getting clicks on their web sites?
 
But can't you throw exactly the same criticism of the trashy tabloids (and you could argue more and more allegedly upmarket papers nowadays) in that they are mostly engaged in sensationalism and all they predominately care about nowadays is getting clicks on their web sites?

Sure you can. It is a circular argument, but in my opinion the red meat which started this feeding frenzy was her smacking the boyfriend. I read that Flack was lined up to do a show where members of the public would go before jury who would vote on whether they would have plastic surgery. I don't think she could have been blind to the risks of media frenzies and bad outcomes.
 
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